I'm trying to improve my times at the track. I flat foot second to third and third to fourth. I was told not to flat foot from first to second but when I watch a video of my run that shift looks so slow. Is it ok to flat foot from first to second or is it too hard on the tranny. Car is a 91 integra turbo 365whp. Stock tranny other than obx lsd. Comp Cutch stage 5 solid puck. 24.5x8.5 M&H.

 

how is flat footing allowing you to move teh shifter any faster? my hand moves the shifter the same speed no matter if i lift or wot shift.

 

its hard on the tranny and you eventually will break something on slicks. street tires would be ok but youll spin so i would just shift normal. i only flat foot on the 3-4 shift cause its straight back. and thats only sometimes.

 

It's fine to flat foot the shift, once you get used to it it's faster since your brain only concentrates on 2 things instead of 3.

By flat footing the car won't fall on it's face on the 1-2 as easily either. Just make sure you push the clutch in all the way or it gets noisy...oops haha

 

i have really flat feet it sucks.

how is full throttle shifting bad for your trans? it puts a bit of excessive wear on the clutch. but i dont think its any harder on the trans especially with 400hp

 

When people suck it's hard on trannies

 

actually with many managements like s300 and neptune you can set up WOT shift in the ecu so that the computer automatically drops the rpms to help avoid mis shifts.

 

flat foot every gearrr. lol

 

How does that help? Dropping the RPM doesn't mean you'll shift properly.

Just shift, I've done it for years on the street and the track and nothing has ever happened.

 

Boost doesnt drop as much when you flat foot it.

 

that goes for almost anything.

only bad thing is that with stock gears the impact is whats gonna break something.

 

I've broken axles and differentials but have yet to break a trans and I never lift between shifts on a pass. Granted I'm not making that much power though but executed well, it would still last for a while witrh a moderate power level.

 

You race at NEDW, I do aswell. Is your integra the one thats gray/dark silver with the body kit?

 

seat time and fine tuning... a t3/4 isnt much to spool why risk your drivetrain?

 

thanks for the input rota92. ill try that next time i head out.

 

yes i race at nedw. its the evo gray one. only wingswest front bumper no body kit. i like it for more airflow to the intercooler. i was running a few times friday. what color is your hatch?

 

the biggest problem i have seen with flat footing a car is the shift timing. if you pull it into gear before the clutch is disengaged, you will be tearing up syncros. I was doing that and changed to a 3/4" clutch master so the clutch would release faster and it worked much better.

 

Thats my car nothing special

Non-vtec sohc-t

1.777 60 foot but 13.7 @ 100 on friday

but best to date was with my dx tranny 13.343 @ 100.52 with 1.802 60 foot.

Tune is kinda shitty at this point. And having issues with ex tranny.

 

Who tunes your beast?

 

Yeah thats mine. I wouldnt call it a breast but its fun. Rick at Kinetic Motorworks in Hampstead NH tunes it. Really smart guy and doesn't mind talking to you to help you get where you want. You where wearing a cowboy hat right? I remeber looking at your car.

 

Yes sir. When Kinetic was Trick they jerked me around a bunch and a lot of money was wasted with them. They do good labor but I would be wise when going to them for tuning. But this was when it was Trick, I have heard good things about Kinetic but I just bring my car to *****.

Good **** better see you at Import Wars Aug 29th. If you buy your **** through **** and race at NEDW he will pay you to run 11.99 , 10.99 , 9.99 = $500 for each time beat. If you decide to go tell him Brad sent you.

Cheers!

 

Who sells a 3/4 Master?

 

Ive had very bad luck with Gary when I first wanted to go turbo. I want to run in the XXXracing index class at import wars just gutta get down to the 11.50s.

 

i flat foot it every shift. Have yet to miss a gear at an event so far. ::knock on wood::

my car picked up ~2 tenths and ~2mph full throttle shifting

 

omni power makes a bolt in one and there are a few other universal ones like tilton & wilwood. kens kustom chassis sells a kit with bracket and everything you need including a tilton master.