what model and year is ur lude ?
and what bolt ons do you have?
thanks

 

accord aem cai, greddy header/vafc/cam gears..peace

 

Yeah, I think you must have a freaky JDM motor. Have you ever done a compression check on that engine? I would bet that you're putting down way more hp than a typical USDM h22. Even w/ your good 60 foots, that's still fast as hell. Oh, lucky you get to race to past 10 pm. Only 1/8 mi track here where you can race that late.

 

yea....how were you on thee track past 10...orlando speedworld extend its hours?

 

nice times

 

I think the track closes at 10pm but if there are cars still waiting to run and they are in within the line/lanes, they will let you run. You can not race once they close the lanes. I hope that made sense.

 

uhh you didnt really answer this guys question...what year is your prelude

 

1993 prelude, full interior..peace

 

The track I go too cloeses at 6PM kinda sucks

 

hes got dyno numbers, but his story on them changes sometimes. he won an n/a dyno challenge with nitrous, and i dont even know what the other stories are, but they get confusing. hes got a jdm motor, a gsr ecu (reprogrammed?), i/h/e, vafc (untuned but leaned out) vtec point changed. cam gears set at stock (i think) and some weird tranny. i think he shifts at like 9k... launches round 4800. i know somone thats seen him run these times, and supposedly hes not spraying... i dont know. i think he just might have upgraded internals or something, that hes not aware about. the times just sound good to be true... although he does go to the track often. i dont know, the mystery of the 14.1 prelude with bolt ons... most spraying ludes hit that.

peace

 

i need to start going to the track anywyas great time

 

Good driving. They were my times when my prelude was allmotor, with a similar setup, but only 1 cam gear and no vafc.

What tires are these on? if they're on street tires, very impressive.

 

I think he said he believed he was running on falkens when he was running 14.3s. Later he said street radials were getting the same 60 foots.

 

I also doubt that this is a stock engine. If he IS shifting at 9k on stock internals (which hasn't been said by him), I find that really hard to believe...but since he is claiming it is all stock with bolt ons, maybe he is just blessed by the hand of God. I would be curious if the elevation is near sea level. This would have a huge effect on his ET and trap speed. I ran a 14.1 (long ago) well above sea level with basic bolt ons as well, but my 60ft times were much quicker than his and my mph was the same, so it isn't entirely impossible. I am a skeptic in this case, but I could change my mind if there was proof otherwise.


[Modified by 2point6, 4:57 PM 8/26/2002]

 

His times are good, but not that out of the ordinary that they would be suspect... VeeTec (Warren from GA) was hiting 13.7s and 13.8s consistantly with just bolt-ons in his 1993 VTEC with full interior. This was with no Nitrous and before he ever cracked open the motor...

Andrew

 

i'm sorry but i can't believe that either.... what the hell bolt-ons did he have? what is he running now?

 

ok...first off i dont shift at 9k..no idea where that came from..i shift at 7900...and on occasion run through the traps in third gear at 8200..right at rev limiter..since its a GSR ecu...also that dnyo challenge was from daytona beach super street tuner bash..and yes i did win..but i had a Nitrous kit then..although the jet was broken...and my bottle pressure was at like 400psialmost empty..it didnt give me much, i sold my kit right after that to another member on Prelude online, whos a freind of mine he has had the kit since april...the internals have never been changed....im also pretty close to sea level..im in florida for gods sake although it does get quite humid here...and hot...and members of a few boarsd have watched me run, theve also seen my car up close, there is no nitrous, i wouldnt lie about something like that or if i had upgraded the internals, i think being able to drive very well has something to do with it, my times are usually all within a half a tenth over the course of the night, that kind of consistency is great for a 5 speed...and im running on some shitty radials right now, i wanna get some nitto555rs or the new bfg force radials...my 60s suck for radials, ive run those same times on street tires...although i have pulled a couple 2.1s..i once pulled a 2.10 but then missed third gear...ugh..i really wanna get this to a dyno...i did gain like a full mph by leaning out my vafc 5 point across the high cam, this ecu runs reallly richim curious to see what kind of dyno numbers id pull..a freind of mine is gonna try to get me in to this place he knows of to get it dyno tuned, im going to the track again this wed..i go once a week..hopefully ill pull 14.0..well see..i may try leaning it out a little more..later

 

It is amazing how stories change from person to person. Congrats on your impressive times. Just so you know, I wasn't questioning wether or not you actually ran those times, but if it was done on a stock motor or not. Great job.

 

wow that's fast...... i ran a 14.3 on 205 kumhos (2.3 60ft) and this was on nitrous....

 

Possibly the previous owner in Japan upgraded the pistons and since you've never opened the motor, you wouldn't know. Was the gsr ecu reprogrammed? I wish I could rev it up to 7900. 4th gens are limited to ~7400. I bet not having to shift to 4th would help me a ton. 1/2 sec right there.

 

Warren basically had ALL the bolt-ons. Intake, header, exhaust, high-flow cat, ignition, VTEC controller, Lighweight flywheel, ACT clutch, UR Pulleys... Everything but internal engine mods. IIRC, he got the 13.7 time on street tires. I can't remember everything else, and since HP.com is no more, you can't see his setup there anymore. He still frequents Preludeonline.com, so if you are still interested in his setup, you can find him there...

He's definitely not the kind of guy who would BS about his times to try to impress kiddies. He's a Georgia patrolman, a straight-up, no-nonsense guy, and he's been frequenting Prelude boards for as long as I can remember. He has posted scans of his faster timeslips in the past.

Andrew

 

I highly doubt that there are different pistons in there. 99% of jdm motors sold in the states come from unmodified daily drivers. As we all should know by now, you cannot add aftermarket pistons to an h-series block, and type-s pistons would not make any difference.

Also, Warrens times are legit, I too have followed his progress and timeslips for the last 4 years or so..... Too many haters, not enough believers.

 

jon619, stock tach the revlimiter hits at 8000rpm on the 4th gen. vtec.

everyone always wants proof and the man posts it right here on the board. then stories. why is it so hard to believe that some cars and drivers just get better times.
the motor of course has something to do with it, the sea level, actual weather, driver, etc.
4bidden on po.com also has run a best of i believe 14.3@98mph. he also has posted his slips and that was supposed to be a run with some faulty......

there have also been 4th gen. vtec's to run close to 14.5 with moderate bolt-ons so this time is definitely possible.

i also recall deceptakon running a 14.6-14.7@96-97mph with just an aem cai and dc header.

keep up the driving and get that car in the 13's. great times.

 

lol. no one believes this guy. i do. im waiting for the SMSP header/exhaust and im hoping for around a 14.5 which i think is reasonable. all i have now is an intake. figure in this guy has jdm higher compression, and more mods..

oh and VeeTec had posted his slips before on preludeonline. he had basically every bolt on you could have. i think everyone has a hard time believing because they dont know how to drive their car. probably dont know how to get everything out of it and therefore they are skeptical when others pull good times.