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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Default lsvtec turbo vs n/a b20vtec

so heres where I'm torn.

my cars a daily driver, but will hopefully see some lapping this year. I had my mindset on building an rs machines piston b20vtec, but I also have a basically "stock" lsvtec sitting in my garage from my old car.

What would you guys do? I was just thinking because I realize I would dump all that money into the b20vtec, and probably still be slower then most boosted cars, including sohcs.

Any input would be greatly appreciated!
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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turbo all the way.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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id boost either one and be happy!
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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haha thanks for the input guys. I guess I asked a pretty dumb question lol
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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what do you mean by basicly stock ls??
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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Default Re: lsvtec turbo vs n/a b20vtec

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what do you mean by basicly stock ls??
stock ls bottom, stock b16 head.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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idk all motor cars in my opinion have more respect. less people have them and make good power, its also kind of a art to say you actually built your entire engine from the ground up. (rather than just strapping a snail to you engine) if you got the money id go b20. if your cheap, like me, and the most of the honda community then go with the LS-T.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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i hope you dont plan to rev that ls vtec high.
i wouldnt boost either intell they are built. rods,pisonts. then boost away
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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idk all motor cars in my opinion have more respect. less people have them and make good power, its also kind of a art to say you actually built your entire engine from the ground up. (rather than just strapping a snail to you engine) if you got the money id go b20. if your cheap, like me, and the most of the honda community then go with the LS-T.
I wanted to be different and stay all motor, but at the end of the day, whats it worth if your as fast as or slower then a sohc with an ebay kit? lol
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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idk all motor cars in my opinion have more respect. less people have them and make good power, its also kind of a art to say you actually built your entire engine from the ground up. (rather than just strapping a snail to you engine)
What about the guys that build their turbo engines? I agree, slapping a turbo onto a stock engine expecting to see 350whp requires little to no thought. I can appreciate a good NA build but it's the guys who build a turbo engine that get my attention.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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Default Re: lsvtec turbo vs n/a b20vtec

b20's don't respond well to high heat for extended periods (high rpm's for lapping)

boost the lsv....
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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thanks for the input everyone
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 07:29 AM
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NA>BOOST
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 07:42 AM
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i like all motor so go with the b20vtec just make sure you get some good rods and pistons
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tek9_ej2
I wanted to be different and stay all motor, but at the end of the day, whats it worth if your as fast as or slower then a sohc with an ebay kit? lol
i have a gsr in my car and it spanked up on a del sol with a z6 and ebay turbo kit.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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I've got a b20vtec eg and i'm very happy w/ it. B16 trans, and some other goodies . Almost went sohc turbo, glad i didnt (no offense to the sohc turbo guys)
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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Default Re: lsvtec turbo vs n/a b20vtec

with the b20v is a nice set up too but then the b20 cylinder wall is too thin. and i used to own a lsv-turbo and it pull nice. its just the stock ls bottom and the stock b16 head with a ebay turbo kit on and dyno at 8 psi. pull really nice. but do what you like tho since it is your car. now im working on the same setup but now its going into my ek hatch.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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Default Re: lsvtec turbo vs n/a b20vtec

thanks everyone! Im not too sure on what Im gonna do
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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Default Re: lsvtec turbo vs n/a b20vtec

bringing this thread up from the dead lol.

winter is almost here, and my car comes off the road very shortly.

I have the oppurtunity to buy a stock sleeve wiseco piston 9:1 comp pistoned' ls block for around 800? (never been ran before)

or I can by the rs machines (new name for them now?) pistons for a b20 block and put my head on that.

Im unsure what to do haha. ls block and piece together a kit, or stay all motor.

this is my daily driver, and hopefully will be used for circuit.
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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Default Re: lsvtec turbo vs n/a b20vtec

Originally Posted by 98civdx
i hope you dont plan to rev that ls vtec high.
i wouldnt boost either intell they are built. rods,pisonts. then boost away
he could rev the LSV decently and still be safe. on MOST stock motor turbo setups (.54,.57 trim t3/t4 turbos) the powerband drops off anywhere from 7600-7900 significantly. you can turn a lsv to 7800 in racing situations and be ok.... just not all day everyday.
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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he could rev the LSV decently and still be safe. on MOST stock motor turbo setups (.54,.57 trim t3/t4 turbos) the powerband drops off anywhere from 7600-7900 significantly. you can turn a lsv to 7800 in racing situations and be ok.... just not all day everyday.
what do you prefer? lsv-t (with the built block i have the oppurtunity to buy (wiseco piston and crower rod setup), all assembled, never been used before, just gotta put my head on it.

or the high comp. piston b20vtec?

edit. my head is a b16a head with a gen 1 skunk2 intake manifold (might be buying a bdl 68mm tb), skunk 2 v/t and skunk2 cam gears. (havnt bought cams yet because I dont know what im doing lol

Im trying to spend money once lol
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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I'd prefer the b20v... N/a earns a lot of respect, but then again... b20v-t's are great due to their low compression ratio... your choice, but either way... I'd go with the b20v.
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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i like the lsv just for duribility purposes mostly.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 05:38 AM
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fvck n/a build the lsv bottom and boost it mildly.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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thanks for all the input everyone keep the opinions coming.
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