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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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I just put in a ITR cable tranny(LSD) in my DA integra today, I drove around to test it and the tranny makes an almost unnoticible whine, and the whole car vibrates slightly at 2k rpm, but fades away once the rpm increase. Im a Mechanic and it seems to me that the tranny is the problem. It never did this before the install. I need your guys help, thanks

other parts installed:
XTD 6-puck unsprung clutch kit
New OEM flywheel
New tie-rod end (right)
New CV-axle (right)

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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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aww man I'm gonna have to take it back out
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 09:34 PM
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firts of all ITR transmissions were hydro
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by da9leo
firts of all ITR transmissions were hydro
+1 and also check your motor mounts.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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Are you sure its not the y1 lsd? Doesnt tend to shake much more with an lsd tranny? My y1 does that, it doesnt grind or pop out, and i;ve had it for a couple years now using centerforce dual friction clutch kit.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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Yea its a Y1 LSD, Just found out. So the problem is the tranny is what your saying?
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Yea its a Y1 LSD, Just found out. So the problem is the tranny is what your saying?
as long as all your other work was done properly (ex: mounts all tight, didn't damage c/v joint etc..) then yes it does sound to be caused by the trans. have you noticed any binding? possibly the lsd is taking a dump
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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Yes everything else was done correctly. When I pull it off gear the vibration goes away. Now my question is what will i need to get that fixed? and how much just in parts?

what do u mean by binding? second gear sychro is bad
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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did you shim the lsd right and do you have the proper clearence some lsd you need to add fuild to them
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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what year integra is your clutch for? the y1 needs the 90-91 integra clutch. only asking because you thought it was a type r tranny.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Really hard to say w/o hearing/feeling it in person. But I would lean towards a bad input shaft bearing. When they fail they can cause a vibration and/or clicking (similar to that of a bad axle).

It's pretty easy to pull the trans apart and check that bearing.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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Im gonna take it back down, the thing was i bought from my co-worker and just put it on which was a bad move. I should took it to my friend to look at it. The axles are fine , no play, and free spins normal (on car lift). My friend works at this place here in Hollywood,Fl called JAPTECH, they only work on hondas, im gonna have him take a look at it.

The clutch kit is for a 94 integra ls (which is the block i have/w p72 head)
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Aren't you suppose to use a cable tranny clutch kit?
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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This thread makes no sense. If that trans is a y1 then you can't use a 94 Integra clutch.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 08:40 AM
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My mistake its a YS1, here are pics. Im using a b18b block, flywheel and clutch kit.


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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 10:46 AM
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the only thing different between 90-93 clutch kit and 94 is the throw-out bearing
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DA-Flyby
the only thing different between 90-93 clutch kit and 94 is the throw-out bearing
WRONG.

90-91 and 92-93 clutches are different. a1, s1, y1, j1 input shaft size is smaller than 92+ b series transmission.

Difference between 90-91 clutch kit and 94 kit is the disk AND the bearing.
Only difference between 92-93 clutch kit and 94 kit is the bearing.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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so my tranny the YS1 is a GSR tranny? so that would make it a 92-93 tranny
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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i say find out for sure what you have before you do ANYTHING! big/small spline trans and clutch. maybe u got a small spline trans and a big spline clutch. if so, i wouldn't say anything more..
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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my cheap set of CV joints vibrated.

Got OEM ones and went away.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 12:53 AM
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so my tranny the YS1 is a GSR tranny? so that would make it a 92-93 tranny
Do you understand how to use the search function? YS1 does not = GSR. All 92-93 integras came w/ a YS1. RS, LS, GS, GS-R....


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i say find out for sure what you have before you do ANYTHING! big/small spline trans and clutch. maybe u got a small spline trans and a big spline clutch. if so, i wouldn't say anything more..
FAIL. Learn something before you post. This has NOTHING to do with splines. It has to do with DIAMETER of the SHAFT. 92+ shaft size is LARGER than 89-91 b series. It's already been determined that he is using the right sized clutch disk.


Originally Posted by turbociv910
my cheap set of CV joints vibrated.

Got OEM ones and went away.
I wouldn't shy away from using aftermarket axles, they are cheap. And usually they come w/ a very good warranty. Yes, they might be bad right out of the box, but you can just bring them back and get replacements for free. That's going to be a lot harder w/ OEM axles if they happen to be bad out of the box. But yes, OEM ones are generally going to have a better track record. I've been using Raxles for almost 10yrs now, zero complaints, great customer service. I got one set as a replacement (they have a lifetime replacement guaranty) and one was bad - they replaced it for free no questions asked.

Axles can cause vibration, maybe even noise. But judging by his description it doesn't really sound like his problem.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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so by the diameter of the shaft... how many different diameters are there?


and i dont see dude confirming the correct clutch disk. unless u guys r pming on the side.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by spermy
so by the diameter of the shaft... how many different diameters are there?
SEARCH. 89-91 b series transmissions have the smaller input shaft. 92+ have the larger input shaft. Common misconception is that the splines are a different size or a different number. Both versions have the same number of splines, but the diameter of the shafts are different. IIRC the difference is 1mm - to confirm that you can look up exedy's website, I believe they have the shaft diameter posted in the specs of their clutches.


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and i dont see dude confirming the correct clutch disk. unless u guys r pming on the side.
If you read the posts it's obvious.

1) He finally figured out it's a YS1 trans (larger shaft dia)
2) He said he's using a 94+ integra clutch kit.
3) All 92+ b series clutch disks are the same in regard to fitment.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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SO WHAT UR SAYING IS THERES BASICALLY 2 DIFFERENT SHAFTS RIGHT? ONES BIG, AND THE OTHER ONE IS SMALL.

AND WHAT POSTS STATE OBVIOUS THINGS? YOURS? OR HIS?
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by spermy
SO WHAT UR SAYING IS THERES BASICALLY 2 DIFFERENT SHAFTS RIGHT? ONES BIG, AND THE OTHER ONE IS SMALL.

AND WHAT POSTS STATE OBVIOUS THINGS? YOURS? OR HIS?
Yes, exactly what I said 89-91 is one size and 92+ is the other size. No b series transmissions were made pre '89, so that pretty much sums them all up.

It's the combination of posts. He gave some info about his setup, then I gave info regarding fitment...etc. Read everything and it's a conversation back and forth in which we came to certain conclusions (whether stated explictly or simply confirmed by what both of us were talking about).
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