well a few days ago i bought the complete omni drag suspension , every one seemed to think my poor 60 foots, high 1.7 to low 1.8 was due to my tokico blues and basic slip on coil overs, well i went to the track sat for test and tune and the car got the exact same 60s as the crappy street suspension. i made over 25 passes during 6 hours trying every launch rpm and tire psi combo you can imagine and the best i could muster was a 1.78. we shot video of the car and its not squatting like the street suspension did and the front barely lifts but the 60s are no better or no worse, they are exactly the same as they was the week before. the toe is 0 on the front and the camber set so that its just slightly negative at rest and 0 when the nose is up just a little like when i launch. i will probably put my tokicos back on since this extra stiff ride isnt worth the same 60 fts. I ended up hurting the car after so many back to back passes it went POP on the last launch and white flew out the tail pipe, so im hoping just head gasket, but thats a different story, moral of the story be careful when buying a 800.00 suspension you might just be wasting good money like i just did
i should add the track was pretty good for beaver, they actually dragged it and prepped it pretty good, every one i watched with any power was pulling wheelies and hooking great, i walked the 60 ft a few times checking the groove and i saw no gaps or any thing it was super sticky. i rotated my slicks twice during the day as well.

 

Few questions for you:


1. How much air pressure are you running in your slicks? Are the slicks old?

2. What condition are your bushings in?

 

bushings are great, i tried every psi you can imagine, slicks are less then 2 months old and was fresh out the mold no ware house time when i got them. the first 2 passes on the slicks was 1.68 when i first bought them doing very light burn outs, with my old suspension then they dropped to 1.7s and then to high 1.7 low 1.8 all within 10 passes or so, saturday the best 60 foots ended up being at 7.5 psi 7000 rpm 2 step and no retard on the antilag or fuel enrichment. either way i might try MT 24.5x7x13 when i get the car back together, these MH 23s are going to a buddy of mine for his crx.

 

What is the lowest psi you tried? What brand of slicks are these, M&H or M/T?

 

i edited my post while u was replying , they are MH slicks and the lowest i tried was 6 but it was very bad they ran over them selves allot, due to them being 23 x 13 you dont get allot of side wall like a 24.5 x13 or so has, you can go down to 5.5 on a 24.5 x13 and still not be on the rim like you are on a 23 at 6.5.

 

you need 24.5 MT's with your power...youll pull 1.6's all day then.

 

How much power are putting down? Maybe too much for the slicks?

 

in his sig it says 10.7 so thats definetly enough to need 24.5's...ant mt's are better than m&h from my experience.

 

Should of called Progress...

 

I am assuming by your post you had the car re-aligned?

If this is something that really erk's you I would think by now you would be looking for means to have the car corner scaled and aligned properly.

I dont think coming in here saying a companies proven drag suspension is garbage because it didnt work for you on your first time out on it is appropriate.

 

where do you see the word garbage in any of my post? and the car is aligned properly we did it last thursday after we set the suspension up and it might have been the first time out but **** i made 25 passes or so in 6 hours how many more is considered a good test? lol i am planning on getting it corner balanced soon but i shouldnt need to just to get 1.7s.

i plan on trying MT 24.5x8x13 soon as i found out what happened to the car. i used to have them when i had the ITR tranny but i figured the gsr gearing would be to tall for them.

and the whp for those who asked is around 510 or so, the 10.7 at 138 was the first 2 passes on the 23s then it fell back into the low 11s

 

This isn't a court of law, its a message board. We all know what you meant.
Don't blame the suspension because you can't figure out how to get your car to hook.

 

I think you should def. try a 24.5x9 and m/t always worked better then m/h for me.but when i had stock monroes sensatrac w/groundcontrol coilovers my car would pull high 1.5s low 1.6s all day.

 

have you tried adjusting the preload on the rears? i also agree with 23's likely to be too small for your power. do you have dual stage or boost by gear corrections?

 

Weren't you the one that posted about your brand new slicks getting all feathered/torn up?

Once they get that way they don't hook the same anymore man.

I've ran into the same problem with super used slicks. You should try a fresh set and then make an evaluation...

Also sucks on the motor going poof.

 

did you corner balance the car? weight transfer could also affect your 60's
Using any kind of traction bar? if so did you adjust it properly?

 

ROFL or maybe you just "think" you know. lol i was pretty clear with what i meant and used the correct words.

i adjusted the rear to be a half inch higher then the front to put more weight up front.

the slicks that was feathered are no longer feathered since i started rotated them, they are pretty much like velvet now.

havnt corner balanced yet but i called omni the day i installed them and set the car up exactly like they said i should, they claim i should have seen a major traction improvement with just doing that alone.

 

I'm going to have to go with it's how the car is setup possibly....

Others have no problem cutting 1.6's and even 1.5's with those coilovers.

I tend to think that you are overpowering the 60ft. Just me, based on past conversations but, I could be wrong here....

 

Did you have the car corner scaled or did you just throw it in and go?

Are you making changes to the tune during testing or just wingin it?

 

I get consistent 1.6 60ft's on my Omni's, somethings wrong on your setup

 

well i got the head off and it cracked number 3 cyl pretty good. i have a spare virgin b18c1 short block , i just dont know if i want to rebuild or do something different. thanks for the input guys.

 

Sorry to hear that man

 

When you state "you might just be wasting good money", that means you might be spending $800 on a product that might not work...... To me that would mean I just wasted $800 on garbage, do us both a favor and dont be so ****, I am not the only one that took your comment that way.

 

Might means might, is means is , i said might not is, so if anything i was accurate and your reading into things the way you see fit, so in reality I am not **** I am accurate, something you could use a little more of. sorry if you are incapable of grasping words in the exact context they are used in, they do have therapy for that sort of thing and it could save you a bit of embarrassment in the future. your grasping at straws by saying your not the only one who read into it wrong, remember grass hopper two or more being wrong still dont make them right.

 

when the title of thread says its no better than street stuff yet people are cutting way better times than you are with it means you say it doesnt work or saying its worthless. you dont need to be a dick head every chance you get to people when they try to correct things you say.