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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 06:50 AM
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Default Turbo timer and Bypass relay How to disable shock and other sensors

Guys i have done a search on here and all the diagrams and websites with the info are not showing up or its the proxy at work blocking them.

Is there an active thread or site with a diagram to bypass the shock and other sensors in the car with an alarm that does not have the turbo timer built in.

Yes i know they have alarms that have this built in but when i bought this alarm Autopage rf-320 i was not anticipating the turbo and paid over $100 to have it installed with a few sensors so now im stuck with it. Plus i like the alarm and i would just like to make a turbo timer work with it using how ever many relays i need.

Any help is appreciated and diagrams are a big help.

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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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Default Re: Turbo timer and Bypass relay How to disable shock and other sensors

So you want to be able to arm the car while the turbo timer is running correct?
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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yes correct. Do you have a diagram that would be great thanks
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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You'll need to take a + or - output that the turbo timer puts out when it's active. Use that to trigger a relay that you'll put inline with the sensor's power or ground.

For instance take ignition 12v (since the car will only have power on this wire when the engine is running), run this to 85 on a SPDT relay. Ground 86. Take your sensor's power wires, cut them in two with one of the cut ends going to 30 and the other to 87a.
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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great info thanks
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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You will need two SPDT relays, or better yet one DPDT relay, [even "ST", single throw relays will work], you will also need to cut the ign. input power to the alarm.
You will also have to relay isolate the ign. output of the turbo timer so ign. lead to alarm is only cut when turbo timer is on, [unless the timer has a 2nd ign. output and your car only needs one, then the 2nd ign. output can be use to treigger the relays.

What is the MM&Y of your car?
What is the make and model of the turbo timer, do you have a link? 94
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 09:13 AM
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I have not bought a TT yet what do you recommend for this install and can you draw up a quick diagram and take a pic and host it for me and anyone else wanting to do this. Its a 95 ls and alarm is Autopage RF-320.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Your 95 needs only one ign. lead, so getting a turbo timer with two ign. outputs will make the system easier to wire.

Sorry I can't even get this old desk top to copy and paste from "My Pix".
As mentioned all you need to do is "cut" the power, [or ground] to any sensor you want to disable and "cut" the ign, power to the alarm, [probably a red lead but needs to be tested.

You need a relay with as many poles as circuits you want to break, a common and inexpensive relay is a 4PDT, if all you need to "kill" is two lead then a DPDT will work...
http://www.aquahub.com/store/12voltspdtrelay.html
#85 of relay would go to ground.
#86 of relay would be the 2nd ign. output of turbo timer.
Relay will be "energized", [on] when ever turbo timer is.
then it is just a matter of cutting the power lead to the sensor and connecting the cut ends to #30 and #87a of one of the poles of the relay and cutting the ign. power lead for the alarm and connecting those two ends to #30 and #87a of the other pole, of you need more wires cut, [more sensors to disable] just get a 4PDT relay. 94
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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Default Re: Turbo timer and Bypass relay How to disable shock and other sensors

appreciate the info. ill make a diagram and let me know if it makes sense, in the meantime what TT do you recommend with the two ign outputs?
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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I don't see any reason to relay isolate all the sensors power wires. They're low current. And being that they're usually constant 12v, in truth they're all continuous anyway. Just overcomplicating things IMO. But whatev.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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what do you suggest then? can you draw up a diagram? thanks
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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Default Re: Turbo timer and Bypass relay How to disable shock and other sensors

suspendedHatch is correct, you do not necessarily need a separate pole for each sensors power, one pole could be used for all of them, as long as they are 12V+ constants, [hot at all times] a separate pole "is" needed for the alarms ign. power input.94
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Turbo timer and Bypass relay How to disable shock and other sensors

Can one of you guys make a diagram and recommend a Turbo timer for this setup b/c im sure there are many others with the same question.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Turbo timer and Bypass relay How to disable shock and other sensors

http://www.greddy.com/img/PHP/products/pdf/685.pdf

Any turbo timer with at least two ign. outputs will work, the Greddy above has two.

Again, I do not have any way of showing you a diagram I have made, but it is wired like a starter cut relay...
http://www.the12volt.com/relays/page2.asp

On the above relay #30 and #87a would be the lead that you cut, it makes not diff. which way they are plugged in.
#86, [to ign. switch] would be the 2nd ign. output of turbo timer
#85, [alarm output when armed] would just go to ground or you could even use the alarms ground out when armed. 94
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