1991 civic 4dr killing my battery need help !!

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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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what's up everyone well i have a 91 4dr civic for some reason it alway's kills my battery this is my 2nd brand new battery in there i've put a new altenator in aswell and still have the same problem it has an alarm i disconnected that also the wiring for the sound's system disconnected that as well i have no idea what else to check i've checked every single fues in the car there all fine thanks for any help

new part's on car
battery
altenator
cap & rotor
spark plug & wire's
ECU

update.. altenator charges when i first start the car but then after a while it stop's charging

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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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perform a parasitic draw test. that should tell you if there is a small draw on the battery.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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would i be able to do that myself ?? if so what would i need to get .. or do i have to take it to an electrical shop
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 04:08 PM
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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any other option's
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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try your harness the one on the engine and the one under the dash well thats like a LAST resort but yea...hope you get it fixed tho
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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im gonna get a test light and check all the wire's that are on the engine harness..
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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thanks for the reply's anyone else have any other option's
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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you need a a multimeter to perform a parasitic drain test

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=site%...fp=vRIG2fToqqg


Its called a parasitic drew you test this by removing the negative battery cable and connecting a ammeter in serious with the battery. Once connected you disconnect susses until you find the one that drops the most amps. find fault in that circuit and fix.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dacrxguy
you need a a multimeter to perform a parasitic drain test

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=site%...fp=vRIG2fToqqg


Its called a parasitic drew you test this by removing the negative battery cable and connecting a ammeter in serious with the battery. Once connected you disconnect susses until you find the one that drops the most amps. find fault in that circuit and fix.
thanks for the advice im gonna try that tomorrow
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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fck i need to do the same because my cars battery also keeps dying.
at first i thought the car wasnt starting because my starter was bad, but then i realized it wouldnt start because there was harldy any power left in the battery.
the alternator, battery, and starter all passed over and over.
so that means something is drawing power that shouldnt.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 10:57 PM
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Go to Autozone, they do those tests for free i think.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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thanks for all the reply's guy's i got a tester today so i'll keep u guy's updated with the status
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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well i found the fues that was causing the short it's the one for the cig.ligther... but now that the car is on my altenator isnt charging the altenator is brand new i've got it tested and it read's good i checked the voltage and it's 12.38 it should be reading 14.00 or so to my knowledge that mean's the altenator isnt charging right ?
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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im gonna also see if there's power going threw the wiring for the altenator
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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i got power going to the altenator still cant figure this sh*tt out
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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 06:57 AM
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damn civic no luck yet
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 12:38 AM
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Icon6 1991 civic 4dr killing my battery need help !!

I have a 92 Accord with same issue. I am currently tracking it down. Will keep you posted on what I find - we may have the same or very similar issue.

So far - I suspect the aftermarket radio or a circuit in the power door locks. I have not cound any loose grounds or wires - but I have only had this car for 2 weeks. I've owned several Hondas though...


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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by trukcar
I have a 92 Accord with same issue. I am currently tracking it down. Will keep you posted on what I find - we may have the same or very similar issue.

So far - I suspect the aftermarket radio or a circuit in the power door locks. I have not cound any loose grounds or wires - but I have only had this car for 2 weeks. I've owned several Hondas though...


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yeah keep me posted with any info u get... today i took out the center consol where the radio is & and cig lighter and i checked the wire's that hook up to the cig ligther and one is fryed
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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i started up the car today and it started up with no problems the altenator was charging i checked the voltage it was at 14.56 or so, but then after a couple of min. that the car is on the altenator stop's charging i check the voltage and it goes down to 12.36 weird
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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still cant figure this out i dont wanna take it to a shop but i think im gonna have to
im still having the same problem atenator charges when i first start it then after a couple mins. it stop's charging
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 05:34 AM
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I had the same problem on a 91 4 door. Except my battery would stay charged as long as it was driven around. but the alternator wouldnt charge all the time. if i let the car sit, because it was a 3rd round extra car, the battery would die and i would have to disconnect the ecu before i did anything. I found this out cause i bought the car with a bad ecu. my friend bought this car cheap and was going to fix it but couldnt figure it out, so this is when i got it. I tracked down the no start problem to an ecu. I put a new ecu in and boom car was running. but i soon found out that the battery would drain just sitting. After a week or so I went to start the car and nothing. Went to jump start it and it started right up but then died. At this time i heard the ecu fuse blow. At this point i already knew i blew the ecu. So i put in another. I can tell u that on my car the problem was somewhere within the wires of the big plug on the ecu. Im not sure which wire(s) inpeticular i didnt get any further before someone offered to buy the car from me.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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do you have the door-mounted seat belts? they can cause a parasitic drain if they or the latch is not working properly. also, it's normal for your alternator to charge and stop...that's what the regulator does. once the battery is charged, it shuts off the alternator until the voltage drops again below a set point.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by zrickety
do you have the door-mounted seat belts? they can cause a parasitic drain if they or the latch is not working properly. also, it's normal for your alternator to charge and stop...that's what the regulator does. once the battery is charged, it shuts off the alternator until the voltage drops again below a set point.
whats the regulator where is that located?
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System Name\Component : SEAT BELT ( 90-91)
RETURN TO CHOOSING A SYSTEM\COMPONENT FOR : CIVIC
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