i was just wanting to know what everybody thinks about a turbo f22a1 bad idea or good

 

totally nebular.

 

i think it would be bad azz with a little work

 

totally man, i dig it. so like...what are you plans?

 

well i have a h22 turbo [t66] but i just want to do something that not alot of people do and it would be fast nice for sho do like a t3t4 50 trim on it and only push like 10 pounds use a stock f22 from the car stock for the most part do you think it would last and work

 

I've thought of the same kind of setup, interesting!!

 

I call BS ... 2 reasons, both stem from the type of question you're asking... The T66 turbo is a big turbo that requires a lot of aftermarket support in order to spool and be efficient, it also requires a lot of know-how to pull that turbo off.

Any engine is good for boost, if it's HEALTHY and the turbo setup is done RIGHT. So, Yes the f22a1 engine is a very good engine for boost , " if it's healthy and done right "

 

Would that engine be able to handle more boost than the H22 which can take about 7lbs psi stock? I'm really considering this with a smaller turbo than the one mentioned above.
Anyone has this engine boosted?

 

yea well when i got the t66 for thr h22 i knew that it was going to take alot of work but not very many people are doing a f22a1 turbo so i thank iam going to go that way so h22a for sale lol with t66 turbo the hole kit lol

 

PM me about that H22 for sale.
Would it be worth doing the F22a1 turbo or just drop in an H22?

 

well iam going to turbo f22a1 cuz nobody is doing it

 

For when the motor pops?........

Do you have $$$ for another motor, the work to install it, and another car to drive while you fix it???
These are the 3 questions you should ask yourself 1st.

Not directed at you, but in general......You kids need to stop modding cars when you are broke and can't afford to fix what you break.

 

well i have been doing this for sum time now and i think i know that little thing bud and i have the money to do it or i wouldint be talking about doing it lol

 

Less talking, more doing.

 

Well, you're talking about it......you should be reading about it. You won't be the 1st to do it.

 

i think the turbo f22 would be more realistic if money is an issue...if the f22 comes in the car you already have the motor so your not out about $2000 on the H....sale the t66 kit, and use the money to get a 50 trim, still, out no money....then use the money you would have spent on the H to put into your F and car....you'll spend less money for a better setup and have money left over for tires and suspension.

i like the idea of a turbo f than a big t66 turbo H

look at the tuner directory here on HT and dont skimp on a good tune, i would stay away from piggyback setups...i dont know from experience but i heard hondata was harder to tune and alot of tuners like chrome which is probably cheaper and more user friendly or atleast more commonly used by your tuner

so my 2 cents, sale your h and turbo, get 50 trim and mod your suspension, get the car tuned....

does anyone know what psi the stock map for the f22 supports

 

all stock honda maps have a range to around 12psi

 

They are barely tuners if they like Crome......

 

if im speaking correctly, the f22 has lower compression on a iron block, not just frm cylinders, so in that respect this is the largest stock motor for a good turbo setup with a cheap stock honda block.

 

Iron sleeves.......and FRM is by no means weak. Lower compression really isn't req'd. A great tuner can work just fine with 10:1cr and Boost.....that is if he knows what he's doing and doesn't use Crome!

Great budget setup, but I don't like Budget Setups....stock H22+boost=Budget setup as well!

 

Was that another joke? Or is it just the stock map sensor that can't read boost (like up to .7 bar I think)?

crome is fine. The general statement "that is if he knows what he's doing" would suffice.

 

but the h22 has week ring lands, i dont know how that is on the f22, but the other thing is that the f22 you start out a 135hp vs 190hp.

 

Do your research on map voltage and you tell me the max voltage a stock honda map sensor can read and relate that to what the ecu converts the voltage as to pressure.

Crome has turned into a glorified vafc and many tuners (including myself) refuse to use it anymore.

 

Freaked Out
Insecure
Neurotic
Emotional
Not what I'd want to tune my car with......
Its either the cheap-*** VAFC route[my daily driver] or something worthwhile like hondata, neptune, eCtune.[the car I care about]

Im pretty sure its CAST pistons[and inconsistencies in metallurgy] in general having weak ring lands.....
190>135 in my book!
Boost each at 7psi[althought PSI means little-nothing] and see what happens....We were making ~250whp@7psi and ~300whp@10psi with a shitty rev-hard log and a dope GT30R tuning with DSMs and a VAFC.

 

F22a1= open deck aluminum block with iron line sleeves

All Honda engines comes with cast pistons except(the S2000, RDX, NSX) and cast piston ring lands tend to break under boost.

BUT F22a1 is great motor to boost and a lot people in Accord community have been doing it for long time. The F22a1,3,4(not b1 nor B2 these heads were design for fuel economy not performance) has a efficient head design that makes it almost as good with boost as the H22 and plus you have people like Bisimoto, Race Engineering that have design parts for this engine platform. Also Honda made like a million of these motors so if you nuke one you can pick up another one for like $300 or less unlike H22.

Also here is the F22 turbo bible old testamenthttps://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/%2A%2A%2Aofficial-f22b-turbo-thread%2A%2A%2A-1983967/ and new testament https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-accord-1990-2002-2/stock-f22-hp-limit-boosted-dyno-sheets-2520803/ now go get it DONE!!!!!!!!!!