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Old Aug 23, 2002 | 05:43 PM
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like always with my bad luck something had to break . I was working on this with my dad . Front went first and it went very smoothly . Started the back . There we couldnt remove the bolt that connects the control arm to the strut/shock/coil (whatever its called) tower . So my dad suggested that we remove the other two bolts , one held the arm to the fame and the other to the ?brake assembly from the bottom? . Then we could have unbolted the strut/shock/coil tower from the inside of the car and everything would be fine .
Like always me being stubborn i said that it be better not to remove those other bolts and just keep trying to remove the one . Still my dad insisted that we try it the other way . I still said no so he went to try to remove the bolts once again and snap! it broke . Now we removed the whole assembly the way he wanted to do it from the beginning and i had to take it to a mechanic to remove the broken bolt for $10 . He couldnt do it so he used a torch to heat up the bushing so that it would fall out along with the bolt .
Now I need a Bushing (The one that connects the strut/shock/coil tower to the arm) , new bolt . This is really frustrating because my dad is ALWAYS right and I didnt want to do it his way . this really sucks . My car cant be driven untill i get all the parts . I called about 3 dealers . they have the bolts but not the bushing . They said that it will be tusday or wed. before they can get them . SCHOOL STARTS WED. I am so mad . But Ive got 3 other dealers to call tom. because they were closed . I hope they have them in stock .
Does any one know the exact name of the part i need (or part#)

cliffnotes:
- Installed springs with dad
- Back did want to unbolt
- Dad suggested a better way of removing the strut/shock/coil tower .
- I said that i want to do it my way
- My way broke the bolt
- dads way would have worked (it did)
- need new parts
- possibly cant get them in before tus.
- and school starts on wed.

Lesson Learned : You dad is almost 99.9999999999% of time right , and you are wrong

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Old Aug 23, 2002 | 06:00 PM
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yeah...Ive learned this lesson many many times too....
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Old Aug 23, 2002 | 06:59 PM
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anyone else?
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Old Aug 23, 2002 | 08:17 PM
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Default Re: tired to install some sportlines and..... (98slvrcx)

AHEM:
Try route #3, it involves a dremel and a sh*t load of cutting:







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Old Aug 23, 2002 | 08:25 PM
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Default Re: tired to install some sportlines and..... (Beave0101)

happened to me too, my bolt stripped to a complete circle, then had to move onto the others like you did, back ones always suck!!!!
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Old Aug 23, 2002 | 10:02 PM
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what dremel bit did you use?

--justin
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Old Aug 23, 2002 | 11:28 PM
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Default Re: tired to install some sportlines and..... (slowasscx)

**** what the hell happened there? Sorry guys, somehow ended up in the wrong forum...I was gonna say -

I hope you learned your lesson, flapjacks - next time, listen to daddy!

Alex


[Modified by Quik89Si, 8:29 AM 8/24/2002]
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Old Aug 24, 2002 | 12:26 AM
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only thing you have to do is put a philips screw driver to the bottem of the bolt and use a socket to turn and unscrew then push the philips while your unscrewing.. its pretty easy..
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Old Aug 24, 2002 | 02:33 AM
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hehe you shoulda listened to your pops.

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Old Aug 24, 2002 | 05:31 AM
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Default Re: tired to install some sportlines and..... (98slvrcx)

why are dads always right?
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Old Aug 24, 2002 | 06:39 AM
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why are dads always right?
i told him , i told him , i told him..i told the young foo to listen to dad but ***** for brains* thinks daddy is too old fashion....HEY FOO ..ur dad wouldnt be trying to help if he didnt feel he could help..and like me..he s probably broken more things than ull ever own
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Old Aug 24, 2002 | 06:40 AM
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the only positive advise i can give is *listen to pop* ull live longer and live cheaper
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Old Aug 24, 2002 | 06:42 AM
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Default Re: tired to install some sportlines and..... (Beave0101)

omg my uncle and i had to do that same trick with the dremel

i had to buy a new screw and a new rear control arm

well the control arm was used, but it was $30
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Old Aug 24, 2002 | 09:09 AM
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i've had these problems also. Had to drill out the bolts on my car and a friends make sure when you put everything back together you use anti sieze then this won't happen again.

Also yes your dad was right you could take the shock out his way but in the long run what youdid is better cause what happens when you want to put shocks in then the bolt would still be siezed. Also try some penitrating lube not WD40 some bolt breaker or something like that.
Good luck
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Old Aug 25, 2002 | 01:12 AM
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I used my brother-in-laws, sorry i dont know what kind. We went through about 20 discs though. I say everyone should jus get an impact wrench. I rode around on koni yellows in the front and stock in the rear, ride wasnt too bad after i adjusted it, but man a dip in the road sent the nose on a collision course with the ground.
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Old Aug 25, 2002 | 01:35 AM
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Also try some penitrating lube not WD40 some bolt breaker or something like that.
Good luck
jesse
A silicon based spray is usually a really good penetrating lube, since most penetrating lubes are silicon based
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Old Aug 25, 2002 | 09:29 AM
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Both of my rear bolts were stubborn too. I had to torch both and use an impact wrench.
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Old Aug 25, 2002 | 09:41 AM
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Yah...i had the same problem with my rear suspension, but after i heated up the bolts and FINALLY got those fawkers off, i find out I have a pinched bushing and the strut was wedged between the tower and the lower control arm. Long story short...i had to remove the entire assembly and put it back together with the AGX's and the G/C coils. Glad i only have to do that once!
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Old Aug 25, 2002 | 09:52 AM
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Default Re: tired to install some sportlines and..... (98slvrcx)

You didn't detail how dad was right here. You think you could have gotten the screw out AFTER you got it off the car? Don't be so sure. I've seen these bolts rust to the inner sleeve of the bushing and freeze that way. BOTH bolts broke on my 1992 Civic, and my friends 1995 Civic.

Preferred method of replacement is with Energy Suspension Polyurethane bushings and new stock bolts. Use antiseize only on the shaft of the bolt and the head. You risk that it might back out if you use antiseize on the threads. Honda puts loc-tite on these from the factory to avoid just this problem.

Future idea - forget the torch and smack the mechanic who torched your bushing. A hacksaw will saw this bolt in two between the fork and the bushing. That way, the bushing would not have been ruined, and you might could have drilled the remaining threaded section out of the shock fork, preserving the parts.

Dad isn't always right. Might have been here, but you need to supply more details.

Shawn
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Old Aug 25, 2002 | 10:13 AM
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Lesson Learned : You dad is almost 99.9999999999% of time right , and you are wrong
When i told my dad I wanted to join the Air Force to help pay for school he told me to enlist for 4 years in finance, which is a 7am-4pm job. I thought I knew better and enlisted for 6 in a 12 hour a day 5 days a week job. What was I thinking?

As far as the part goes... www.hondaautomotiveparts.com You'll find it there cheaper than the dealer. I had to do the same thing..
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Old Aug 25, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...REAR+LOWER+ARM
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