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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Im ordering new suspension tomorrow and after talking to mac i am leaning away from just slapping some skunk2 drag coil overs on my tokicos and looking more at full coil overs with the proper dampening. how ever the car is street driven allot and while i dont mind stiff i dont want scary cornering. im looking to improve my 60 ft as much as i can while still retain some ability to drive normal. im looking at blox . omni , skunk2 pro s and c and the like , lets hear what you all have to say about this.
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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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I have the Omni's, i haven't had a chance to run them but the Drag launch setup I have look like a very nicely made piece and fit very well in my car. Alot of people are running them and having success with them, they are very good shelf setup and for the money they are hard to beat. If you call up Skunk 2 they will try to sell you their full Pro C setup and that is over 1k and not valved for the stiff 18k springs that you are probably going to want to run. The omni's run 12k front and 18k rear and are adjustable -/+ 4 inches . But Omni actually just discontinued their drag launches and it seems that some people are looking to blox for their alternative. (I'm not sure how much I trust Blox, especially with a very vital component to the vehicle.) To be honest you are going to have to figure out what you want exactly from your car, because to get the best results at the track you are defiantly going to have to sacrifice streetability.
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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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good to know, thanks so who has omnis in stock and ready to ship ?
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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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I dont think anybody does. they were back ordered for a while and then they were discontinued...........
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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 10:53 PM
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I had the Omni drag setup on a street car for a while. I would not recommend it for a daily driven car.

They will definitely help out with 60 foot times, though.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 01:09 AM
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I have the Omni's, i haven't had a chance to run them but the Drag launch setup I have look like a very nicely made piece and fit very well in my car. Alot of people are running them and having success with them, they are very good shelf setup and for the money they are hard to beat. If you call up Skunk 2 they will try to sell you their full Pro C setup and that is over 1k and not valved for the stiff 18k springs that you are probably going to want to run. The omni's run 12k front and 18k rear and are adjustable -/+ 4 inches . But Omni actually just discontinued their drag launches and it seems that some people are looking to blox for their alternative. (I'm not sure how much I trust Blox, especially with a very vital component to the vehicle.) To be honest you are going to have to figure out what you want exactly from your car, because to get the best results at the track you are defiantly going to have to sacrifice streetability.
hmmmm, wonder what happened... cuz not too long ago you were a big time skunk2 nut jockey......
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 06:24 AM
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Default Re: are omnis or blox scary or dangerous on the street?

so i have talked to a few people who have rode in cars with omni drag coil overs and aside from being stiff on the street they dont seem to say they handle dangerous or anything like that.
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If you call up Skunk 2 they will try to sell you their full Pro C setup and that is over 1k and not valved for the stiff 18k springs that you are probably going to want to run.
What about people like Lisa Kubo who have had good results with skunk2 pro-c on 18k springs?

An when I talked to them they told me I would not have any problems changing out the springs that the coilovers would hold it.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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i ended up buying tepid1's omni drag set up, thanks chris!!! will be installing them wed and report back how they work.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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What about people like Lisa Kubo who have had good results with skunk2 pro-c on 18k springs?

An when I talked to them they told me I would not have any problems changing out the springs that the coilovers would hold it.
well when i talked to skunk2 they made it sound like it was ok to run the 18k on the pro c's but i couldnt justify spending 1300 on them when the omnis were 800 and geared more towards drag racing.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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i went with the blox made in the same place as the omnis and are cheaper..thanks ipg
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i went with the blox made in the same place as the omnis and are cheaper..thanks ipg
i was looking at them as well, how do they perform on the street?
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Originally Posted by .dave
I had the Omni drag setup on a street car for a while. I would not recommend it for a daily driven car.

They will definitely help out with 60 foot times, though.
The Omni's and Blox drag suspension are identical except for the color scheme. I do not recommend the Drag suspension for daily driving because I know two people that have used them for daily and they say that it isnt fun. One of my buddies actually spun out smashing through a freeway on ramp cause the suspension is so stiff...

Like them, I would suggest getting some "beater" suspension for the streets and the blox Drags for the track... good luck
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The setup is overkill for a street car. We make a non adjustable coilover for a pretty decent price just for drag racing. You also do not require that stiff of a spring rate for most cars, and we can put something together that will be a lil more forgiving for the street. Slapping a 18k+ spring in the back and calling it drag suspension is kinda funny in a sense cause it's honestly overkill for majority of the people on here. Be careful if you run a drag setup on the street. In my experience a lot of the shocks are underdamped for these high spring rates. A lot of the guys that own these drag setups are use to driving in a straight line, and the amount of oversteer this setup produces can make the car a lil difficult to drive for some people, not too mention the harshness of the ride.

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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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The Omni's and Blox drag suspension are identical except for the color scheme. I do not recommend the Drag suspension for daily driving because I know two people that have used them for daily and they say that it isnt fun. One of my buddies actually spun out smashing through a freeway on ramp cause the suspension is so stiff...

Like them, I would suggest getting some "beater" suspension for the streets and the blox Drags for the track... good luck
i am sure it wasnt the suspension. i called both east coast and west coast shops all day today before i made up my mind and spoke to a bunch of shop owners who personally run the drag set up and i specifically asked if it was a dangerous combo for street use and they all said teh same thing, while stiff it is by no means not able to handle corners. many people who buy stiff no name drop on coil overs on stock struts have far more dangerous set ups then this and yet they still slam their cars and corner like they are on the set of fast and furious. i am sure your buddy lost control due to some other reason then just the fact he had omnis on the rear that and every one who runs a drag style suspension, even the 90/10 rwd guys know not to be dumb when cornering.

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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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i am sure it wasnt the suspension. i called both east coast and west coast shops all day today before i made up my mind and spoke to a bunch of shop owners who personally run the drag set up and i specifically asked if it was a dangerous combo for street use and they all said teh same thing, while stiff it is by no means not able to handle corners. many people who buy stiff no name drop on coil overs on stock struts have far more dangerous set ups then this and yet they still slam their cars and corner like they are on the set of fast and furious. i am sure your buddy lost control due to some other reason then just the fact he had omnis on the rear that and every one who runs a drag style suspension, even the 90/10 rwd guys know not to be dumb when cornering.
I didnt say that he lost control because he had the omnis. I said its cause his spring rate is very stiff in the rear and the car actually bounces when he is taking a corner at high speeds.

I have omni streets on my daily driven EK and I don't have any issues but the drag setup is overkill for the streets. It could be that my buddy was trying to be F&F on the turn, but generally speaking, he doesnt drive like an *** so I took his word into consideration. regardless, daily driving drag spring rates of 18k in the rear is gonna put a fat cramp in your neck and beat up your lower back...
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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Default Re: are omnis or blox scary or dangerous on the street?

blox racing has a killer coilover setup.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Default Re: are omnis or blox scary or dangerous on the street?

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blox racing has a killer coilover setup.
since blox are omni clones i guess that means omnis are killer to huh? lol

as for the stiff rear spring if i want to cushion the ride a little i will just swap a softer spring in.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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A stiff spring rate isn't needed at all, buy a good shock and let the shock do the work with proper valving. At that point, they will be fine on the street. I enjoyed my setup like that on the street very much, and it made getting on it a whole lot safer too!
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A stiff spring rate isn't needed at all, buy a good shock and let the shock do the work with proper valving. At that point, they will be fine on the street. I enjoyed my setup like that on the street very much, and it made getting on it a whole lot safer too!
yeah thats why i said since the omni is already valved properly i will just put in a little softer spring and see how that works.if it kills my back or neck.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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Yes and no, the theory is there but they are valved for a stiff spring. Each time you change the rate by a good amount it's really throwing things for a loop.

If you already have them there's nothing you can do, but just to spread info to others that's all.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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yeah i would have to make sure i dont go to soft , perhaps just a tad to take the edge off lol , i am sure eibach could make me what ever would work.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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I have some slightly used 550's and 450's here, 8" x 2.5" ID lol

Not sure if that's too much for ya but they came from the front of my car
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 02:12 PM
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thanks i will keep that in mind
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I run SK2 drag launch's in the rear with KYB AGX's and its stiff as hell but not too bad, some people are just pussiez and like to cry about stuff.

The only other person I ever know to run a "drag lauch" setup on the street totalled the hell out of their car, *** end passed the front and took out a **** load of trees before doing some nice flips in someones front yard.

Having a suspension that stiff can be "dangerous" on the street, your rear will be very prone to oversteer, especially if you lift throttle and have to turn quickly (which is how I totalled my ITR).
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