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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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Default can hubs be welded and redrilled for 5 lug conversion?

has anyone in here ever thought of instead of buying the 5 lug conv, just unpress the old lugs, weld the old holes. drill whatever bolt pattern you want and repress the new lugs in. i seen vw's doing this in my searching.
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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I think the design of the hub won't allow you to drill a fifth hole in the proper pattern. At least on the rear as far as I know...
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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why not just drop the money for some 5 lug hubs? by the time your done messing the stock ones up, and have to replace them, you would have saved yourself alot of time and headache by just doing it right the first time.
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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Default Re: can hubs be welded and redrilled for 5 lug conversion?

Originally Posted by jhammond_82
why not just drop the money for some 5 lug hubs? by the time your done messing the stock ones up, and have to replace them, you would have saved yourself alot of time and headache by just doing it right the first time.
^ I coundn't agree more. The cheap becomes the expensive.
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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I think it would be a bad idea. the saftey factor is not there. If something would happen while driving and yeu kill someone over being to cheap to buy the right things to do the job right. but thats my look on it
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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Default Re: can hubs be welded and redrilled for 5 lug conversion?

Originally Posted by jhammond_82
why not just drop the money for some 5 lug hubs? by the time your done messing the stock ones up, and have to replace them, you would have saved yourself alot of time and headache by just doing it right the first time.
to be very honest i like being 4x100. i have a friend parting a teg and as far i know all the hubs are still there. we have a good quality machine shop with fair prices. people weld and redrill rims all the time.
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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Default Re: can hubs be welded and redrilled for 5 lug conversion?

Are you trying to retain the OEM brake setup as well?
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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Are you trying to retain the OEM brake setup as well?
yes. do you think the metal will be weak even after being welded
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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Default Re: can hubs be welded and redrilled for 5 lug conversion?

Originally Posted by ivan93egreppin210
yes. do you think the metal will be weak even after being welded
Obviously the metal is going to be somewhat weaker than in its original form. Personally, I would not modify the hubs in the way your describing. It's arguably safe to run a re-drilled rotor, but the hub is a different story.

I'm unsure of your motive behind this though..

One of the biggest advantages of upgrading to 5 lug is the larger OEM brake setup, and the slightly wider rear track. You can re-drill the ITR rotors to 4x100, and run the ITR brakes.

If your dead set on the extra lug, for wheel selection or whatever, I would at least buy ITR hubs/spindles. The front will press right in, and the rear can be used with some modification. Check this thread (https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/5-lug-conversion-using-4-lug-spindles-front-rear-1978033/) I wouldn't use the Mazda Axle nut method for the rear though. I'm sure it would be safer to modify the trailing arm & bearing to accept the longer spindle, than to re-drill the hub.

When you start pricing everything out, it makes more sense to buy a 5-lug swap.
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