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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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Because they look pretty freaking fast. I wonder why more people dont mod them.

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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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take it on the track
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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Eh, I roll most of them besides the boosted ones. They're a little more difficult, but I can still pull on them.
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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Eh, I roll most of them besides the boosted ones. They're a little more difficult, but I can still pull on them.
What do you drive?
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:09 PM
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Almost anything is faster than a 96-98 Civic coupe haha, the newer base model corollas will beat any 96-00 Civic Coupe. i have a 99 civuc coupe so i know.

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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:10 PM
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I dont think scions are that fast stock. He's racing a single cam vs. scion, im sure that civic is stock, i would like to see that against a dohc vtec civic or integra, i think it would be a different story. Scions can be fast when done up, I think kenny tran and his crew made 500hp scion.
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ek-g6
I dont think scions are that fast stock. He's racing a single cam vs. scion, im sure that civic is stock, i would like to see that against a dohc vtec civic or integra, i think it would be a different story. Scions can be fast when done up, I think kenny tran and his crew made 500hp scion.
I think scions are 160hp stock.
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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yeah 2008 model

* Engine: 2.4 L Dual Overhead Cam (DOHC) 16-valve 4-cylinder with VVT-i, compression ratio of 9.6:1 for the 2005 and 2006 models and 9.8:1 for 2007-2009.
* Displacement: 2382 cc
* Power: 161 hp (120 kW) @ 6,000 rpm / 200 hp with TRD Supercharger
* Torque: 163 ft·lbf (220 N·m)@ 4,000 rpm / 185 ft·lbf with TRD Supercharger
* Transmission: Standard 5-speed manual transmission or optional 4-speed electronically controlled automatic transmission
* Highway fuel economy/consumption: 25-30 mi/U.S. gal (8.1 L/100 km) (automatic); 28-32 mi/U.S. gal (7.8 L/100 km) (manual)
* City fuel economy/consumption: 23-28 mi/U.S. gal (10.7 L/100 km) (automatic); 24-29 mi/U.S. gal (10.7 L/100 km) (manual)
* Fuel tank: 14.5 US gal (55 L; 12 imp gal)
* Curb weight: 2,970 lb (1,347 kg) (automatic); 2,905 lb (1,318 kg) (manual)

EDIT: So the TRD is as fast as a K20.
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160hp scion vs civic 127hp if it is an ex. thats a big difference in power. I've seen b16 take them out, im sure a gsr would just smoke it.
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Originally Posted by ek-g6
160hp scion vs civic 127hp if it is an ex. thats a big difference in power. I've seen b16 take them out, im sure a gsr would just smoke it.
What about a TRD? 200hp.
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by farkiller
What about a TRD? 200hp.
I would think thats a different story, i have to admit with that supercharger it has some *****, but then again a k20 makes 200hp stock, and a scion needs a superchager to get 200hp. I could say they have the same power, but it different when just talking about it and actually see them race.
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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I would think thats a different story, i have to admit with that supercharger it has some *****, but then again a k20 makes 200hp stock, and a scion needs a superchager to get 200hp. I could say they have the same power, but it different when just talking about it and actually see them race.
You would think with that much hp you would see more people fixing up scions, I dont think ive seen a single one where I live. Must be because people think of teenage/college girls when you think of a TC.
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by farkiller
You would think with that much hp you would see more people fixing up scions, I dont think ive seen a single one where I live. Must be because people think of teenage/college girls when you think of a TC.
LOL! Where do you live?
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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This thread is ridiculous. What is the point of it anyways?
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ek-g6
LOL! Where do you live?
So cal I meant I havent seen a modded TC I see TC's EVERYWHERE, but all stock.
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:30 PM
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friend of mine has a tc(a purple one, LOL!) with intake/header.. it is well disappointing.

to me.. TC's are chick cars, like 'farkiller' said..
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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slow
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by geneeunit
friend of mine has a tc(a purple one, LOL!) with intake/header.. it is well disappointing.

to me.. TC's are chick cars, like 'farkiller' said..
Imagine getting smoked by one (with a chick driving as well) lol how embarrassing.
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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slow
I wouldnt call 200hp slow.
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by farkiller
I wouldnt call 200hp slow.
yeah, but 200hp in a little 97 civic is a lot different than 200hp in a scion.. power to weight.

dont get me wrong, they're nice cars.. and pretty quick when boosted.. but the majority of the people i see with scions are females, and the people who have them "fixed up" its primarily show and not go.

just my experience.
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Originally Posted by geneeunit
yeah, but 200hp in a little 97 civic is a lot different than 200hp in a scion.. power to weight.

dont get me wrong, they're nice cars.. and pretty quick when boosted.. but the majority of the people i see with scions are females, and the people who have them "fixed up" its primarily show and not go.

just my experience.
LOL! you said it! end of discussion!
Old Jul 17, 2009 | 11:58 PM
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LOL! you said it! end of discussion!
compair that to the tons of teenagers who rice out their civics. Talking about show and no go.
Old Jul 18, 2009 | 12:34 AM
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yeah, scions were no contest for me when i had my b20vtec EM1. they're not fast enough for b series vtec. but i kept it on the track....don't street race.
Old Jul 18, 2009 | 02:18 AM
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Why are we even filming a race against one?
Old Jul 18, 2009 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ek-g6
160hp scion vs civic 127hp if it is an ex. thats a big difference in power. I've seen b16 take them out, im sure a gsr would just smoke it.
Yea Ive beaten n/a ones before with my b16, never tried racing a supercharged or turbocharged one.



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