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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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well. this happen months ago but it turns out to be low coolant so i added more. and recently, it started to overheat alot. it goes past the middle and close to "H". and i just notice that my head gasket is leaking. do you guys think its because of the HG leaking?

and i dont think its my thermostats. cuz i read (on hayne) that "if the upper coolant hose is hot, coolant is flowing and thermostat is open." working properly.

any help would be great. thanks
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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well. this happen months ago but it turns out to be low coolant so i added more. and recently, it started to overheat alot. it goes past the middle and close to "H". and i just notice that my head gasket is leaking. do you guys think its because of the HG leaking?

and i dont think its my thermostats. cuz i read (on hayne) that "if the upper coolant hose is hot, coolant is flowing and thermostat is open." working properly.

any help would be great. thanks
Isnt it the lower rad hose that flows coolant to the thermostat? Im pretty sure it is. You could be like half the people on here and just not run a thermostat altogether. Ha, but i would rather replace that $15 thermostat anyway. Its cheap insurance.
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yes if upper coolant is hot its flowing.

you have a head gasket problem...if your head gasket is leaking and you can see it then man its got to be super bad to be that bad.

change hg asap!
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 10:51 PM
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yes if upper coolant is hot its flowing.

you have a head gasket problem...if your head gasket is leaking and you can see it then man its got to be super bad to be that bad.

change hg asap!
There are a bunch of headgaskets that leak. I would look at the coolant in the radiator first to make sure its not milky and do a compression test before i would rip the head off.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 10:53 PM
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Yeah u got a big job ahead of u dude!check for white smoke just be extra sure though.I've seen ppl replace HGs and find out the prob was valve cover gasket LOL
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There are a bunch of headgaskets that leak. I would look at the coolant in the radiator first to make sure its not milky and do a compression test before i would rip the head off.
wth? Headgaskets arnt supposed to leak...if it is then you have a big problem. If its leaking then you are loosing compression and or fluilds...the hell...

looking at the coolant in the radiator? you mean under your oil cap or in your oil...

head gaskets only take 45 mins to change...
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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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yes if upper coolant is hot its flowing.

you have a head gasket problem...if your head gasket is leaking and you can see it then man its got to be super bad to be that bad.

change hg asap!
thanks..i have everything to do a hg..been waiting to do but no time..and now with this..imma do it today..thankz again
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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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wth? Headgaskets arnt supposed to leak...if it is then you have a big problem. If its leaking then you are loosing compression and or fluilds...the hell...

looking at the coolant in the radiator? you mean under your oil cap or in your oil...

head gaskets only take 45 mins to change...
Your high as ****, almost half of the people on here have oil leaking from the headgasket right where the head meets the block on the transmission side. I could care less if it was leaking from there. Please dont get your dick in a knot. You would know if your headgasket needed to be replaced by a very obvious white cloud coming out of the exhaust followed by your car running like **** (a simple compression test would tell as well). Or you could just take a look under the radiator cap and see if the coolant looks like cholately milk. = you
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Your high as ****, almost half of the people on here have oil leaking from the headgasket right where the head meets the block on the transmission side. I could care less if it was leaking from there. Please dont get your dick in a knot. You would know if your headgasket needed to be replaced by a very obvious white cloud coming out of the exhaust followed by your car running like **** (a simple compression test would tell as well). Or you could just take a look under the radiator cap and see if the coolant looks like cholately milk. = you
Head gaskets are that its a gasket its not supposed to let anything leak...

Just because half the people on here are loosing oil and leaking head gaskets doesnt make it alright. I have had 6 different motors and none of them leaked where you say they leaked...none of my friends in town leaks...cause if they leak all of them change it.

Apperently you have not had a head gasket problem. I have had 2 sunk AEBS sleeves with jack for compression adn it stilll ran good. I boosted on sunken sleeves for a half a year before i changed it. I just had to refill my coolant from overflow back into my radiator. Oh and even with two sunken sleeves i barely had any white smoke.

Just cause you have head gasket problems doesnt mean your car runs like ****. It just means you will over heat if you dont watch it...or loose oil.

and once again NO you check under your oil cap to see if its milky...do you know how much oil that had to have gone into your coolant system to make it milky? ALOT and if that much oil got into your coolant system you got more to worry about then just a headgasket you will need a complete coolant system flush from all that sludge. which is why you look under your oil cap cause it only takes a lil coolant in the oil to make it milky...

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-accord-1990-2002-2/white-milky-residue-under-oil-cap-2158909/

what you do with the rad cap is have it off and start the car. rev the motor and see if there are bubbles coming out. If there is bubbles coming up then you have a leaky hg. You can LOOK in the coolant to see how clean or dirty it is thats always another sign. Maybe oil floating on the top of coolant but never milky coolant. In fact i dont think thats even possible...milky OIL yes...

ask anyone they will tell you the same thing...

i dare you to even make a thread on which one is milky rad cap or oil cap...on top of that i dare you to make a thread saying if its normal for a head gasket to leak...and if you are right you can just add it to your lil signature there seems like you need all the ego boost you need.

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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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Head gaskets are that its a gasket its not supposed to let anything leak...

Just because half the people on here are loosing oil and leaking head gaskets doesnt make it alright. I have had 6 different motors and none of them leaked where you say they leaked...none of my friends in town leaks...cause if they leak all of them change it.

Apperently you have not had a head gasket problem. I have had 2 sunk AEBS sleeves with jack for compression adn it stilll ran good. I boosted on sunken sleeves for a half a year before i changed it. I just had to refill my coolant from overflow back into my radiator. Oh and even with two sunken sleeves i barely had any white smoke.

Just cause you have head gasket problems doesnt mean your car runs like ****. It just means you will over heat if you dont watch it...or loose oil.

and once again NO you check under your oil cap to see if its milky...do you know how much oil that had to have gone into your coolant system to make it milky? ALOT and if that much oil got into your coolant system you got more to worry about then just a headgasket you will need a complete coolant system flush from all that sludge. which is why you look under your oil cap cause it only takes a lil coolant in the oil to make it milky...

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2158909

what you do with the rad cap is have it off and start the car. rev the motor and see if there are bubbles coming out. If there is bubbles coming up then you have a leaky hg. You can LOOK in the coolant to see how clean or dirty it is thats always another sign. Maybe oil floating on the top of coolant but never milky coolant. In fact i dont think thats even possible...milky OIL yes...

ask anyone they will tell you the same thing...

i dare you to even make a thread on which one is milky rad cap or oil cap...on top of that i dare you to make a thread saying if its normal for a head gasket to leak...and if you are right you can just add it to your lil signature there seems like you need all the ego boost you need.
Ok obvisouly your smarter then me because your internet dick is monsterous. So ill leave you alone in your little world of perfection.
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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Ok obvisouly your smarter then me because your internet dick is monsterous. So ill leave you alone in your little world of perfection.
wow...its called giving the forum correct information so others can learn and fix their car the correct way. Thats what we are all here for is help and hopefully providing correct knowledge.
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chai_ek9
well. this happen months ago but it turns out to be low coolant so i added more. and recently, it started to overheat alot. it goes past the middle and close to "H". and i just notice that my head gasket is leaking. do you guys think its because of the HG leaking?

and i dont think its my thermostats. cuz i read (on hayne) that "if the upper coolant hose is hot, coolant is flowing and thermostat is open." working properly.

any help would be great. thanks
hey man, its the head gasket. i had the exact problem. coolant loss, check ur oil, cause mine leaked into the oil. it was a peanut butter type look, if it is , its leaking into there, change ur head gasket. i did mine right away when i noticed mine. fixed the problem right away. hope that helps
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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Check your oil cap valve cover. If it theres some white greasy residue on it then you have a leaky HG. Possibly a water and oil mix. That causes overheating too.
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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wow...its called giving the forum correct information so others can learn and fix their car the correct way. Thats what we are all here for is help and hopefully providing correct knowledge.
Sho nuff!
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 12:45 AM
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Ok obvisouly your smarter then me because your internet dick is monsterous. So ill leave you alone in your little world of perfection.
lmao ur just butthurt cuz ur wrong. change your headgasket and ur thermostat for good measure....you should be fine after that!
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 12:49 AM
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lmao ur just butthurt cuz ur wrong. change your headgasket and ur thermostat for good measure....you should be fine after that!
Eh i wouldnt hold my breath on that one. But i hope your post count goes up x234488532232 for posting bullshit about nothing.
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 12:53 AM
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Ok obvisouly your smarter then me because your internet dick is monsterous. So ill leave you alone in your little world of perfection.

LoL I helped out the OP on his thread, you have the nerve to tell me that i post "bullshit about nothing" when you posted this? congradulations, you're just another HT douche. and you obviously know nothing about an engine if you think it's ok for a headgasket to leak. GTFO noob!
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 12:56 AM
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LoL I helped out the OP on his thread, you have the nerve to tell me that i post "bullshit about nothing" when you posted this? congradulations, you're just another HT douche. and you obviously know nothing about an engine if you think it's ok for a headgasket to leak. GTFO noob!
Lol Why do you post in bold??
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 12:57 AM
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Ok obvisouly your smarter then me because your internet dick is monsterous. So ill leave you alone in your little world of perfection.
Originally Posted by 4doorteggy
Lol Why do you post in bold??
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 01:03 AM
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LoL I helped out the OP on his thread, you have the nerve to tell me that i post "bullshit about nothing" when you posted this? congradulations, you're just another HT douche. and you obviously know nothing about an engine if you think it's ok for a headgasket to leak. GTFO noob!
Dude you need to grow up i know nothing about engines? Ha thats funny. Lots of honda headgaskets leak oil out of the oil port on the bottom left corner of the head and it leaks onto the tranny and down the block. You get the **** off, most of you little kids are running around with oil down the block because 1. you never heard of using Hondabond on the oil passages when replacing a headgasket and 2. your just reusing headgaskets and using copper spray and hoping that it'll seal. Dont try and jump on my nuts about me not knowing anything. Im just saying, there are LOTS of motors that leak out of that oil passage over time. That doesnt mean there is oil mixing with coolant or that your losing compression. Like i said above, do a compression test and look at your oil to see if its milky. Tell you what, heres a link. Scroll about half way down and look at pics because i know thats all you little kids understand are pixxors!!!
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 01:14 AM
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LoL do you feel like a cool guy for calling me a lil kid? I hope so. I'm 24 years old and have been building Hondas since i was 16. I know what the **** i'm talking about. I need to grow up? you're the one that started all this E-Douchery!! need I remind you? --->
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Ok obvisouly your smarter then me because your internet dick is monsterous. So ill leave you alone in your little world of perfection.
So, you grow up, and stop putting other people down in their threads. besides, fighting on the internet is like the special olympics, no matter who wins, ur still retarded! and it's lookin like you got a bit of Down's Syndrome going on, so before you make even more a douchebag of yourself, go drive your leaky headgasket engine and keep your shitty opinions to yourself. and yes, like i said...GTFO noob!
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 01:17 AM
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sorry OP Apparently HT attracts the biggest douchenozzles on the planet. I hope replacing your T-stat and headgasket (if you choose to do so) fixes your problem. if not, come back and let us know what's up. we'll have you on the road in no time, and hopefully **** suckers like this guy with keep their garbage and non helpful opinions and comments to themselves! peace!
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Oh snap, dont hurt yourself! Raise that post count!!
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 01:36 AM
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LoL do you feel like a cool guy for calling me a lil kid? I hope so. I'm 24 years old and have been building Hondas since i was 16. I know what the **** i'm talking about. I need to grow up? you're the one that started all this E-Douchery!! need I remind you? ---> So, you grow up, and stop putting other people down in their threads. besides, fighting on the internet is like the special olympics, no matter who wins, ur still retarded! and it's lookin like you got a bit of Down's Syndrome going on, so before you make even more a douchebag of yourself, go drive your leaky headgasket engine and keep your shitty opinions to yourself. and yes, like i said...GTFO noob!
No one cares about how old you are. That doesnt mean you know more? Im 20 and i graduated from college with my 2 year AS degree in automotive technology. I work Full time as a asstant manager at Discount Tire Co. monday through thursday and i also work part time at acura Friday and saturday. But no one gives a **** about that because you know more right? Your just jack *** e-thug loser. Me starting "e-douchery"? thats a first at hearing that lol If you could read i started a perfectly knowledgable post to help the OP but of course being what h-t is and you being a perfect example of the " my e-thug talents are better than yours" deal, i had a pissed off **** that took my post the wrong way because he misinterpreted my words, and thats when this stupid drama broke out because he thought he would step in a throw down a bitch fit over the so called "leaking headgaskets" when basically all i said was they start to leak at that one corner and its nothing to cry over. And come on, the special olympics and down sryndrome? Thats kids stuff.

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Or you could just take a look under the radiator cap and see if the coolant looks like cholately milk. = you
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Like i said above, do a compression test and look at your oil to see if its milky.
apperently not what you said...

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i had a pissed off **** that took my post the wrong way because he misinterpreted my words, and thats when this stupid drama broke out because he thought he would step in a throw down a bitch fit over the so called "leaking headgaskets" when basically all i said was they start to leak at that one corner and its nothing to cry over.
if you were refering to me...thats just lame...i only tried to correct what was wrong. Leaking headgaskets are never a good sign and i tried to tell the OP that and you that its not normal...

if the head is perfectly flat and the block is flat and the gasket is good there should not be any leaks at all.

truthfully i have never ever heard of using hondabond on the headgasket. I have built some motors including one that pushes 420 hp and i still never had to use any copper spray or honda bond on the oil passages and never had a problem. If anything logic tells me thats a bad idea as it may raise that corner .001 inches which may infact causes leaks and later on a bad headgasket due to inconsistent surface. Sounds more like a band aid to a bigger problem.
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