I have a d16y7 block with a d16z6 vtec head and I have set the crank and cam gear and everything is at 0 degrees TDC.
When I use my timing light and move the distributor I cannot get the car to retard enough timing the lowest I can get the car at is 60 degrees of advanced timing.

If anybody has any ideas what the heck is wrong please let me know!

Thanks in advance!

 

uh... Check your distributor... It has 3 bolt holes. make sure its in the right position.

 

I already checked, it's correct and I made sure it was not 180 degrees off even though it shouldn't start being off that much.

 

I'm thinking I need to retard or advance the cam gear since it is off that much.

Other info would be:

-Brand new timing light being used
-TDC is set perfectly
-d16z6 vtec head
-d16y7 block

The car runs but the valves are a bit loud which isn't a surprise being advanced 60 degrees.

 

anybody?

 

i'd double check your mechanical timing (pull timing belt off, set block to tdc on number 1 then set head timing again). sounds like you may have it a tooth or so too far forward

 

what type of light are you using? is it an adjustable light? i'm assuming so since you are giving a number here.

just to make sure you are doing it properly (it's been a few years since i've done this so forgive me)

assuming the static timing is correct between the top end and bottom end, which you confirmed, set the light to 16 degrees, or whatever base timing you want. jump the service connector so the base timing stays put. put the distributor somewhere in the middle of its range. start the car. with the distibutor bolts slightly loose, turn the distributor slightly until you see the lone mark (seperate from the smaller grouped marks) in the light through the sights on the lower timing cover. Mark the distributor tab with a line going onto the head-side tab. tighten the distributor. now check your work-, assuming you used a timing setting in the +/- range on the crank pulley marks, put the light setting to "0" and make sure it lines up with the appropriate little line for 16* on the crank pulley amongst the grouped lines. if you used a setting outside of factory specs, then just check using the light advance setting that you used initially.

to double check, is the service connector jumper "jumped" to keep the timing at the base distributor setting?

 

The light is an adjustable.

I jumped the service connector but it makes no difference whether I jump it or not for some reason.

If I set the timing advance on the light to 16 it will be way off since the least amount of advance I can run is 60.

This is frustrating as hell, since i've timed other cars and never had an issue.

 

what cam and cam gear are you running? or is it stock?

 

^^^ it's stock.

 

where is it idling when you are checking the timing? can you possibly try that light on another car to assure that it's working properly?

also, try a standard light, a non adjustable light and see if you can get one of the three +/- marks on the crank pulley to show in the 'sight' on the lower timing belt cover. the light you are using might be defective.

 

The car idles at about 900-1000 that is where I set the idle to.