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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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Default What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi?

What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi? I was running a cometic at first, then changed to a copper. Took it to the dyno and at 30psi it lifted or blew, I think just lifted though. Anyone with experience with the copper? Pretty sure im suppose to retorch after a while but didnt think after 6 dyno pulls. Any help would be appreciated.

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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Default Re: What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi?

im running a standard cometic .030 on 40psi and some spray
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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I use only golden eagle. They are factory gaskets resized. I would look at your timing map- 9 times out of 10 timing causes headgasket failure.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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golden eagle -- copper o-rings in the block -- no problems
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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Stock OEM Honda
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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Golden Eagle HG, headstuds and copper O-ring
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Default Re: What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi?

I have a aebs o-ringed block. Has or is anyone running a copper? I may have to try that golden eagle this time! The cometic was pretty good to me also though.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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stock with copper orings. Nothing beats it.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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just out of curiosity, what makes people think the head "lifts"? is there a sign or do they just feel badass thinking they make so much power that the head magically wants to fly away? no offense to you OP.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Default Re: What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi?

I would look into your tune. That is probably causing your headgasket issues. I run a cometic and have no issues at all with it.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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Default Re: What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi?

I run a cometic but with a copper you should use hymor, I think to is it. I used to retorque it after the car came up to temp or after a couple of pulls or runs.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Default Re: What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi?

Originally Posted by 1320Mikey
I would look into your tune. That is probably causing your headgasket issues. I run a cometic and have no issues at all with it.
pretty much the same one, but this time thought I would go with a copper? Wish I didnt now. Did not have any issues with to cometic, couple people I know did over time though. This is my first HG problem so I thought I would ask some questions.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Cometic on our honda, copper on our sunfire
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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Default Re: What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi?

Originally Posted by Garcia-Racing
Cometic on our honda, copper on our sunfire
any problems with the copper? Ever has my problem? Do I need to retorch this soon?
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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Default Re: What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi?

Originally Posted by nonvtecallmotor
Golden Eagle HG, headstuds and copper O-ring

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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Golden eagle hg here at 85mm, no orings, no issues.......yet
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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Default Re: What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi?

Originally Posted by nonvtecallmotor
Golden Eagle HG, headstuds and copper O-ring

+2
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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Default Re: What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi?

Originally Posted by 85mmek9
any problems with the copper? Ever has my problem? Do I need to retorch this soon?
From what I've researched Honda doesnt have enough clamping force to smash the copper gasket to seal correctly. Having only 10 bolts/studs are not enough.
I know that I've tryed them years ago and never had any luck with them even N/A. I had stainless wire with a reciever groove and all kinds of sealers. Nothing worked.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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Default Re: What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi?

Originally Posted by Innes
golden eagle -- copper o-rings in the block -- no problems
same here
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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Default Re: What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi?

used all goldeneagle stuff before and switch to aebs on a rebuild and had nothing but issues.now im back to goldeneagle everything-block,headstuds,mainstuds,and gasket
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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Default Re: What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi?

I used copper with an o-ring and it worked great. I have even reused them.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Default Re: What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi?

Originally Posted by nonvtecallmotor
From what I've researched Honda doesnt have enough clamping force to smash the copper gasket to seal correctly. Having only 10 bolts/studs are not enough.
I know that I've tryed them years ago and never had any luck with them even N/A. I had stainless wire with a reciever groove and all kinds of sealers. Nothing worked.
that makes sence, probably will not even try to re-torque it, just go back to cometic, thats what i get for trying something new, just got the damn thing back together to. lol
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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Default Re: What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi?

Originally Posted by Johnny O A20 KIller
I used copper with an o-ring and it worked great. I have even reused them.
Did you have to re-torque it? Any certian things im missing here? I would have thought more people run them or have tried. What made you change?
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Default Re: What head gasket you guys running at 30-40psi?

ive gone back and forth between OEM and cometic gaskets with arp studs and have come to the conclusion it doesnt matter as long as the tune is good, and more importantly the machining of the block and head are good. 90% of the time i have seen head gasket issues has been a result of shitty sleeve jobs. or people hot lapping their cars with crap radiators, radiator fans, and having coolant temps that are through the roof.

missfires are brutal on the head gasket too.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikey3000
just out of curiosity, what makes people think the head "lifts"? is there a sign?
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