I have a set of S2 Turbo Stg 1 and I hoping to get 650+hp out of the car with a bw s362. Would I benifit from selling the cams and getting Tuner Stg 1's or will there not be a noticeable gain of power?

 

http://www.evans-tuning.com/ check out his charts

 

I have looked there a couple of times and dont remember seeing any test that compare the two.

 

You probably won't find the answer to this unless you try it for yourself. Dropping the cams right in you could gain or lose power. I believe it's all in the tuning. People have gained nearly 100HP when switching from cam to cam but I don't know the specs of either cam described above and even if I did...I'd still be guessing.

 

sell the turbo cams and get the tuner 1

 

I know tuner 1s or pro 1s are best, but for my engine I would need tuner 1s. Are the gains worth it going through the trouble and money of selling and buying tuner 1s?

 

help?

 

For reference I have picked up over 100whp by switching out turbo cams and going with ITR/CTR cams in the past on efficient turbo set-ups (EL manifold, large plenum intake manifold, 35r and larger sized turbos). The skunk2 turbo cams work well on log manifold/high backpressure combinations and that is about it.

The tuner 1s are the best for a street driven car. You dont need to worry about increased valvetrain wear, needing cam gears, etc. They are a drop in cam. I still feel that they are the best for a street car. Pro 1's will make a bit more power, but have increased wear on valvetrain. They also require a high zinc based oil to be run.

I have a few sets of tuner 1's for sale, see signature.

 

definitely sell those cams, one guy on here got the wrong cams and they were skunk2 turbo cams and lost 50whp from an ITR cam. I think the SN is Earlthesquirrel or something like that

 

Generally turbo cams do not work well on a vtec engine. stock cams will make much better powerband. gsr cams are a good all around cam they give a little moroe low end and nice top end power. CTR/ITR cams will giv you more top end power and either one will eat the turbo cams up all day. Tuner1 skunk2 on the otherhand is goign to give you much better performanc providing your running a good free flowing system which i would hope seeing your running the BW

 

That's funny that you say that. I bought the cams from because he had on his for sale thread that they were tuner 1's, but when I got them I did some research to find out they were turbo stage 1's. He said he didn't know that they were turbo cams, but I guess he really did. I told him I would try to sell them, but if not we worked out a deal. Hopefully I can sell them and stick to my orginal build with tuner 1's.

 

Tuner 1's will work much better than the Turbo 1's. The Tuner 1's are slightly more aggressive than ITR's, and ITR cams have been known to make good power in f/i cars.

 

ya i sold him these cams, unfortunately at the time i had no idea that they were turbo cams as a couple vendors on here told me they were tuner 1's (i told them they markings and they said tuner 1's) i had no idea why i lost power untill he informed me that T1 on the cam meant turbo stage 1 and not tuner 1's

i still made 400whp @ 15psi with them fyi