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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 08:51 AM
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hey i did a wire tuck shave bay on my rhd eg hatch (real eg6) and the cluster lights up but no chech engine or enything like that ...also the gas pump doesnt prime and everything seems to be grounded and pluged properly ... i only have one ground on the water pump (motor side) ...eny ideas would be helpfull
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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BUMP !
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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Have you checked for blown fuses under the hood and dash?
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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yes ... none seem to be blow even tried a new main relais assembly ... dont know what to check next .
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 12:33 AM
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simple your grounding out somewhere especially if it was working prior to the wire tuck then after you get nothing then when tucking you grounded out somewhere retrace your wires and steps and you will find it
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 07:08 AM
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care to explain... what do u mean by grounding out ....
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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yes ... none seem to be blow even tried a new main relais assembly ... dont know what to check next .
Did you check fuses 31, 24, and 18 with a multimeter?

Do you also lack spark? Have you checked the important ground wire located on the thermostat housing?
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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the only ground i have on the hole motor is on the thermostat housing and the block seems to be really well grounded (checked with a test light several places) and didnt check with a multi meter ....what type of volts should i get and why would it matter (not good in electonics lol)
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 07:45 AM
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Hook up ALL the engine ground wires and then go from there.



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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 07:48 AM
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ok il try that if enybody has eny other ideas feel free to say them !!
and i have what thermostat + tranny + motor head to ground ...
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ok il try that if enybody has eny other ideas feel free to say them !!
and i have what thermostat + tranny + motor head to ground ...
You must have the engine properly grounded. Did you check the three fuses I mentioned earlier?

Regarding the cluster, also check fuse 15 under the dash.

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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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hey i just noticed the ground wire on the thermostat ...culd it be that i have it inside the cabin ??? because of my wire tuck
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 08:07 AM
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i remember grounding a ground similar to that inside the cabin but not on the motor the one i have on the motor is just a wire that i made out of 6 gauge plus conectors /?
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 08:34 AM
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I had the exact problem on my car to the T tor everything apart dash engine harness and did cotinuity test it sucked. It turns out it was a loose ignition wire that went to the Key. Check those real well there should be atleast 2 big plugs with pretty heavy gauge wiring going to them. GL let me know if you need more help.
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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i tried my main relai in a another car it works
in mine it just buses
i by passed it and my gas pump came on ....
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BlakeJ53
I had the exact problem on my car to the T tor everything apart dash engine harness and did cotinuity test it sucked. It turns out it was a loose ignition wire that went to the Key. Check those real well there should be atleast 2 big plugs with pretty heavy gauge wiring going to them. GL let me know if you need more help.
IGNITION WIRES TO THE KEY
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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ok ok il check lol !
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Originally Posted by therealeg6
ok ok il check lol !
The ignition switch provides power not ground to the main relay and ECU. You have power but not proper grounding to the main relay circuit. Therefore, a bad ignition switch doesn't fit if your information is correct.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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so what ground should i check ?
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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there is one they is on the driver side door sill (where the front seat bolts to the floor) on LHD veichles so i assume it would be the same on a RHD (drivers side on the right though) that is your fuel pump ground.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Pothole987
there is one they is on the driver side door sill (where the front seat bolts to the floor) on LHD veichles so i assume it would be the same on a RHD (drivers side on the right though) that is your fuel pump ground.
Bypassing the main relay causes the fuel pump to run, so the fuel pump ground is fine.

OP: The main relay gets ground from the ECU, which gets ground on the thermostat housing. Therefore, swap in a known ECU and also check the three ECU ground wires that run to the thermostat housing.

Again, do you lack spark.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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havent checked spark but the ground on the thermostat is it a ground to the frame or to the wires of the car (car wire harness)
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