im interested to know how many allmotor guys out there w/ daily drivers would come out and race at the events if there was a street allmotor class for actuall street driven cars?

imo its fairly safe to assume anything requiring a rollbar (11.49) isnt going to be a true "street car" because of the modifications required to make that kind of power and get the car light enough to run those et's

most QUICK daily driven street cars are gonna run 12's, some may run high 11's. obviously you can only do so much on 93 pump gas so that would be one requirement of such a class.

i believe a class like this is needed to help the sport grow and get more guys interested in racing allmotor. obviously we already have a street allmotor class which is dominated by sportsman allmotor guys driving purpose built sportsman racecars, myself included.

honestly i feel both class's are needed. the true daily driven class for people to become interested in racing and the sportsman class as a stepping stone/transition to pro allmotor.

now some people will say street stock is an entry level class for newcomers. well it is however it doesnt allow engine swaps.....BIG PROBLEM because there are sooo many guys driving around everday in swapped cars that would love to come out and race but arent gonna waste their time or money to compete against the purpose built cars. this is one thing which is hurting the sport.

so, im interested to see just how many of you here would come out and race if it was in a true street class for daily drivers? like i said before, a class like this would probably run mainly 12's but im sure there would be a few high 11 second cars w/ mildly built k and h swaps.

so who would come out and race?

also feel free to provide your own point of view as well, even if we may not agree

 

i would enjoy a class like that. I know that my boat is hard to compete with the hatches that run low 12's with minor swaps, bolt ons and tuning so yea, a true street class (allowing slicks) would be cool.

 

yup it would definately allow slicks

im sure the class would mainly be full of swapped hathes and such....

Blake you know you can run in the street stock class, its for cars w/ original engines (no swaps). they allow slicks and you would probably be fairly competitive i think.

 

Then people would have to worry about fuel checks, people limiting engine sizes, tire size..

 

the only problem i have right now with competition is getting my car there and back. It is my TRUE daily driver and if i break down 200 miles from home, thats an expensive ride home. However, i just got a tech job at a dealership and my dad said that once i got another car he would allow me to use his truck to tow my car. I know that once that happens, i will be entering in more competitions and not doing just test and tunes.

I know you guys have a big crowd up there for import racing, but how many people actually enter into the street stock class and what kind of payouts are typical (i know this varies between how many people are in the class)? I'd see myself being in that class for a long time as it would take an incredible amount of work in order to get this thing to run 11's just on the motor and i'm not talking about engine work. I'd have to cut weight like no other, lol, and by the time i'm going that fast most tracks will make you run some kind of roll cage and then i'm back to square one with a heavy car. ha.

 

yes there would obviously be rules, thats the point haha

tire size is already limited anyway in street allmotor

and as far as engine size.....like i said, you can only do so much on pump gas.

so build the biggest baddest engine you want as long as it runs on pump gas and doesnt have a vaccum pump or dry sump

the rules can be kept simple and easy to enforce, it just takes some time to think about.

 

street stock doesnt run 11's, well Fransisco has gone 11.9x once or twice a couple years ago, but thats not the norm.

street stock is a 12/13 second class. you know who would be a good person to speak w/ about street stock is BIG TUNA. he could tell you much more than i could about that class.i know its a class for cars w/ original engine, built as much as you want and they run slicks and full interior.

 

ok i'll talk to him when the time comes. The other problem is that my back seats are gone, my trunk is gutted and all panels from the rear seats back are removed. The rest is pretty much stock tho. I had asked the guys that make the rules at one time about what they thought about that but i never got an answer back.

i dont see the car going much faster than 12.3 in the current chassis trim when the motor and tranny are completely beefed up so maybe i can show some people how to make a whale swim like a dolphin :p

 

Blake, you can go to www.battleoftheimports.com and click on drag race, then click class rules, then look in street stock

 

I think there should be a category for imports called heavy street for preludes accords ford probes and other manufacturer's like the domestic guys do just a thought.

 

LOL besides the accords, you got the RSX'S and SI's to think of. A class where a B-series could actually be competitive....like i said before in the drag racing forum. Laying out the rules will be crucial....but unlike Street stock. IMO this class has potential. keep this **** up-top!

 

I think this is a great idea...

I would love to be competitive in a car that is ACTUALLY street driven in a heads up class with other REAL street driven cars. I've said it before, but I feel the majority of racers are left sidelined simply because it is unbelievably expensive as well as time consuming to build a car that can even begin to compete at the level these "street classes" are at. I love racing, but that doesn't mean I have nor would I at this point spend $30,00 to build a car, and I think a lot of folks are in the same boat.

It was brought up previously... would a true "street car" need to be driven to the track to be within the rules? I pretty much ALWAYS trailer my car to the track even tho it is only good for low 12s on the motor, but I do enjoy the insurance policy. I'm able to drive it like I stole it without the 'how am I going to get home if I break' thought in the front of your mind while you're trying to make a hard pass. That's the worste

Just my .02

 

Great idea Im new to the track scene so this would be great(experienced street racer) I think this would be awesome. PM if this works GL

 

essentially what you would have is a naturally aspirated SFWD class.

 

no, thats what we have now haha

the current street allmotor class is dominated by purpose built cars, the average street guys wont race in our current class because they cant compete w/ 10 sec/ low 11 sec cars.

 

the rule book on this class would be so thick. it could be done but youd have to be super super specific. i.e. cars must have full exhausts with mufflers. cars must have interior with seating for at least 2 people. must have functional audio with at least front door speakers. no cutting of oem unibody. ect ect.

 

its already been done when NHRA was still here, the only problem w/ that class was drag radials were required NO SLICKS

it has be done and would be worth doing again, but w/ slicks

this would be one of several ways to improve this sport imo

 

this will be cool but i run on 100 octane all day. So i guess i have to retune on 93

 

Street class should be held to a drag radial at maximum, what your talking about is something that fits your needs not 90% of the street cars. Street cars need to be kept to street tires, let the sportsman class run slicks. h2b and k can run well into the 11's in street trim one thing that would equal out their power advantage is a tire limitation.

If your looking to encourage interest you need to keep the class on a street tire someone can drive to the event on and drive home on. Make it so everyone can compete in their cars as they drive them on the street, and if they have enough interest they can step up to the higher class and run on slicks. Lets face it its better to learn on a less forgiving tire and move to a slick, natural progression.

KISS

 

im guessing you dont get to the track much haha

radial tires tear up drivetrain components WAY more than slicks.

w/ radials comes wheel hop....and w/ wheel hop comes broken parts plain and simple.

trust me, slicks are a nessecity at the track.

and like i said, nhra already had a radial class a few years back and everyone wanted them to allow slicks to avoid parts breakage.

 

this is mu issue too. with the things ive broken with just bad luck lately, i dont have the ***** to drive the hour and a half to the track at the risk of breaking something and say having to leave the car overnight till i can go get it the next day or something.

i had planned to go this week even, but im too nervous about the car

 

I like the idea, it would give the sport something for entry level people to get into.

 

I would run this class.
Here are the all motor rules for a local race, which I like except that it's a drag radial class:
Add slicks to the list and maybe no lexan allowed.

 

i think full interior cars with rear exiting exhaust is a great idea. slicks allowed but must be registered just like a street legal event. now the accord preludes and etc... can come out and play

 

you run 11's lol