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Rotated my tires. *My alignment is off now...*

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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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So I rotated my tires, switched the rear rims to the front and vice versa. I unmounted the rim and mounted it on with a Air gun. Now when I drive it, my steering goes very little to the right and I have to steer slightly left to go straight. Also when I steer left, it feels way lighter than turning left. I wonder if I did anything wrong? I don't have a garage so the only time I get to remount and use the tools is at my work place during the weekends... Please help, thanks.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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yea you used an air gun to put on your wheels
NEVER USE AIR TOOLS TO PUT ON NUTS/BOLTS!!
thast how you break ****
check the air pressure in the tires uneven pressure will cause it to pull
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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Oh I see, so I have to hand torqing them in is the best and safest solution?
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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it could just be the way the rear tires were worn down as you drove it.. probably not an alignment issue.. but the tires itself..
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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you didnt torque the lug nuts?
the way you put a wheel on is you hand screw the nuts on the studs and once it gets tight enough you lower the car a little torque them then lower the weight of the vehicle on the wheels and go over them again and then check the tire pressure
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Murk 'EM
you didnt torque the lug nuts?
the way you put a wheel on is you hand screw the nuts on the studs and once it gets tight enough you lower the car a little torque them then lower the weight of the vehicle on the wheels and go over them again and then check the tire pressure
Hhmmm... I just hand screw the nuts using the key for better grip then I air gun it in. Let's say I did 5 clicks each lug.

So what you mean the proper way to put on a wheel is to hand screw the lugs tight enough, then lower the car till the wheels touch the ground then torque it a little then lower the car completely then torque it again, then check tire pressure? Let's say I have a torque wrench, how many pounds should I torque it at?
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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i think hondas get torqued to 85ft/lbs
im just saying as a rule for air tools never use them to put bolts/nuts on it will break things
use ratchets or your hand you cant break a wheel stud off with your hand you kno?
but check your tire pressure and the ware pattern of the tires
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Murk 'EM
i think hondas get torqued to 85ft/lbs
im just saying as a rule for air tools never use them to put bolts/nuts on it will break things
use ratchets or your hand you cant break a wheel stud off with your hand you kno?
but check your tire pressure and the ware pattern of the tires
Yea, I get what you mean. Thanks for the info, I will find some time to go to my friend's house to use his garage 2m.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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Since the vehicle DID NOT pull before you rotated the tires, and if you have checked the PSI of both fronts and they are the same...

Then you have what is called 'radial tire pull'. Cross rotate your fronts (the left to the right and the right to the left). This will either -
A. get rid of the pull (problem solved) or
B. it will pull in the other direction (if it does the tire is defective and will be warranteed by the tire shop/store/mail order place you bought them from). You will have to pay for whatever tread you have already used on the tire (called proration), some tire dealers will do a 100% adjustment if the tire is LESS THEN 25% worn (75% tread remaining).

If the tire tread is directional then the tires will have to be dismounted, turned around & remounted, and rebalanced before swapping them side to side

On a side note - torque for Honda lug nuts (with steel or aluminum alloy wheels) is 80FT/LBS

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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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Ya honda is 85 ftlbs. But I always crank mine down to 110. I dont trust 85
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sp00ledbseries
Ya honda is 85 ftlbs. But I always crank mine down to 110. I dont trust 85
x2, you can't trust what Honda puts in the owner's manual
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TheJGB3
Since the vehicle DID NOT pull before you rotated the tires, and if you have checked the PSI of both fronts and they are the same...

Then you have what is called 'radial tire pull'. Cross rotate your fronts (the left to the right and the right to the left). This will either -
A. get rid of the pull (problem solved) or
B. it will pull in the other direction (if it does the tire is defective and will be warranteed by the tire shop/store/mail order place you bought them from). You will have to pay for whatever tread you have already used on the tire (called proration), some tire dealers will do a 100% adjustment if the tire is LESS THEN 25% worn (75% tread remaining).

If the tire tread is directional then the tires will have to be dismounted, turned around & remounted, and rebalanced before swapping them side to side

On a side note - torque for Honda lug nuts (with steel or aluminum alloy wheels) is 80FT/LBS

this is the correct answer.. thanks for playing guys!!
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TheJGB3
Since the vehicle DID NOT pull before you rotated the tires, and if you have checked the PSI of both fronts and they are the same...

Then you have what is called 'radial tire pull'. Cross rotate your fronts (the left to the right and the right to the left). This will either -
A. get rid of the pull (problem solved) or
B. it will pull in the other direction (if it does the tire is defective and will be warranteed by the tire shop/store/mail order place you bought them from). You will have to pay for whatever tread you have already used on the tire (called proration), some tire dealers will do a 100% adjustment if the tire is LESS THEN 25% worn (75% tread remaining).

If the tire tread is directional then the tires will have to be dismounted, turned around & remounted, and rebalanced before swapping them side to side

On a side note - torque for Honda lug nuts (with steel or aluminum alloy wheels) is 80FT/LBS
Thanks, I will do that right away!! But yea, I did check tire pressure and they are all the same. =[ I hope that store where I bought it from will do what you have explained. I got my tires at this Hankook store down in Oakland.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by sp00ledbseries
Ya honda is 85 ftlbs. But I always crank mine down to 110. I dont trust 85
Have fun bending rotors and misshaping lug holes
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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Have fun bending rotors and misshaping lug holes
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