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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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i currently have i/h/e on my em1. i would like to get some more power out of my car. keeping in mind this is my DD so reliability is a must. i am open to any suggestions on what to upgrade next if you think there is a better route. i just want some more power out of the car without taking away the reliability. thanks
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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not much n/a. A forced induction setup tuned right is just as reliable.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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b16 are hella slow.
either do a poor mans r or get a supercharger.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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Default Re: more power out of a DD

Originally Posted by NACvicSi
not much n/a. A forced induction setup tuned right is just as reliable.
buddy is right ^
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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Why a supercharger? Turbo kits can be had way cheaper and just as reliable.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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I'm willing to bet, pretty much everyone is going to say for you to turbocharge it.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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turbo is reliable if done right
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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ok so if a b16 isnt the route to go then maybe a b18? or like someone said a poor mans r? my only question to that is if i drop a new motor in do i have to beef up anything else to handle the transition?
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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which b18, GSR, type-r, or b18b, u can reuse everything but the ECU, but for the price of a swap u can boost
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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if your gonna go turbo then he might have to get rods or valve seals for reliability (depending on how many miles you have on your car now)
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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if your gonna go turbo then he might have to get rods or valve seals for reliability (depending on how many miles you have on your car now)
He more than likely has to get new piston rings before either of those.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 07:46 AM
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the car has 99k. i would be willing to turbo as long as its not going to hinder the reliability. i am open to everything at this point. i just want to some more power when i hit the gas.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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i think ctr/itr cams and valve train with a descent header and nice tune should get you what you want. Remember no matter what you do to a b16, it will always feel sluggish, but theres a difference between feeling like your going fast and actually going fast.

the b16 is a motor that dont feel like your going fast b/c of the lack of torque, but with itr/ctr cams, a good header, and a nice tune the car will really open up.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DEATHB4DlSHONOR
the car has 99k. i would be willing to turbo as long as its not going to hinder the reliability. i am open to everything at this point. i just want to some more power when i hit the gas.
Any power you add to the car beyond what it came with stock from Honda will bring reliability into play. A turbo setup with an A+ tune and a bulletproof motor will still be less reliable than stock. Upping the power in any way will bring the reliability down to different degrees. Turbo the b16 now, and build another motor at the same time. If you tune it right and can resist turning up the boost too high, it'll last you a few years and then you can throw in a nice built motor and go kick some ***. NA will leave you pissed off unless you have at least 2 liters. K20, b18 bored out etc.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tw1tch
Any power you add to the car beyond what it came with stock from Honda will bring reliability into play. A turbo setup with an A+ tune and a bulletproof motor will still be less reliable than stock. Upping the power in any way will bring the reliability down to different degrees. Turbo the b16 now, and build another motor at the same time. If you tune it right and can resist turning up the boost too high, it'll last you a few years and then you can throw in a nice built motor and go kick some ***. NA will leave you pissed off unless you have at least 2 liters. K20, b18 bored out etc.
Well said. You have to be willing to spend the money to keep your car reliable and to make the power you want.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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Do a H2B swap. You have big chunk of the parts since you have a EM1.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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y does everyone hate b16s... ive got two of them one in my dd 99 em1 and 1 in my 11 sec crx ... both of them run dam. good my coupe went 15.2 on crappy tires and 87 pump gas and on a crappy track. ... and full interior
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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x2 on the h2b tho h2b=badass. im currently building one.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NACvicSi
Do a H2B swap. You have big chunk of the parts since you have a EM1.
all u need is the adapter plate and the engine
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