h22a ek running rough
I have a 97 civc ex coupe. Did the h22a swap earlier this year. Last week the car started acting wierd. I was driving down the highway got stuck in traffic then the car got really hot. Only did that once thankfully, also when i am driving the car sometimes hesitates, when i accelerate it pauses or maybe even bogs a little before it pulls as it should during acceleration. Also while i am driving the car gets kinda jerky every now and then. The timing was checked 2 weeks ago have not checked since this started. It has brand new ngk spark plugs, ngk blue plug wires, cap and rotor. Any information would be appreciated.
i forgot to mention that it had a low idle, i tightened up the throttle cable and the idle was fine for a day or so and then back to low idle, somewhere round 400 rpms.
Is the CEL ON?
Does the radiator fan fail to run when the engine is hot? Is the coolant level low in either the radiator or reservoir? Have you tried to bleed the cooling system?
Does the radiator fan fail to run when the engine is hot? Is the coolant level low in either the radiator or reservoir? Have you tried to bleed the cooling system?
The only cel that comes on is the egr valve, but that has been on since i did the swap. I noticed my coolant level a few weeks ago and took it to the shop that has been helping me with this, we refilled and bleed my coolant and it has been fine every since. The fan does come on as advertised.
So the overheating problem is completely solved? If not, consider replacing the thermostat.
When did you last try pulling codes? Maybe a new code has popped up.
Does your engine actually have an EGR system?
When did you last try pulling codes? Maybe a new code has popped up.
Does your engine actually have an EGR system?
Last edited by Former User; Jun 22, 2009 at 09:54 AM.
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I have not checked it at all this week, i usually do just to make sure. I will check in a few to see if i got anything else showing up. And yes the overheating issue has been solved or at least has not come back. The only part of the egr system i have is the egr valve it selve, nothing else came with the swap. I was told once i get a p28 and hondata s300 i can turn that off.
I don't think that the original 97 Civic EX coupe had an EGR system, so can I assume that the H22a engine has an EGR system? If so, you might want to check whether the EGR valve ports and passages are clogged up.
just check cel codes and the only one coming up is the egr code 12. Yes you are correct the egr system was not originally part of the civic. On the h22 i have the egr valve itself but i don't have the rest of the system for it to actually work. Did not come with the motor.
just check cel codes and the only one coming up is the egr code 12. Yes you are correct the egr system was not originally part of the civic. On the h22 i have the egr valve itself but i don't have the rest of the system for it to actually work. Did not come with the motor.
Last edited by Former User; Jun 19, 2009 at 10:07 AM.
It has been running fine up until 2 weeks ago, the egr valve is not plugged just the unplugged the sensor. Really had not thought about replacing the im.
Let me ask you, it makes a popping and a gurgling sound in the exhaust and to me that is back firing, would you consider that back firing. I have tried checking the timing myself but i just can't see it myself.
What can't you see? Did you jump the service connector and hook up a timing gun?
This site had this information:
For doing the adjustment on Prelude, you will need a timing light. The car must first be warmed up until the fan turns on. Timing marks for timing light are exposed by removing the rubber cap from inspection window on the cylinder block, by the bell housing. Also, the ignition timing check connector must be jumped. It is located under center of dash. See the drawing below for its location.

Connect jumper wire between the Blue/White and Brown/White wire terminals.
To adjust timing, loosen distributor hold-down bolts and turn distributor housing counterclockwise to advance or clockwise to retard timing. Align the pointer with the Red timing mark.
When the job is done, tighten the distributor bolts to 16 ft. lbs. (22 N.m). and recheck timing.
If it is all OK, remove the jumper from the ignition timing check connector. Reinstall the cap into inspection window on the cylinder block.
All 93-94 Prelude S/Si (P12, P13, P14 Chips, H22, H23 2.2L/2.3L Engines)
Degrees BTDC @RPM Automatic @ RPM Manual 13°-17° 650-750 620-720
93-95 Honda Prelude Ignition Timing AdjustmentDegrees BTDC @RPM Automatic @ RPM Manual 13°-17° 650-750 620-720
For doing the adjustment on Prelude, you will need a timing light. The car must first be warmed up until the fan turns on. Timing marks for timing light are exposed by removing the rubber cap from inspection window on the cylinder block, by the bell housing. Also, the ignition timing check connector must be jumped. It is located under center of dash. See the drawing below for its location.

Connect jumper wire between the Blue/White and Brown/White wire terminals.
To adjust timing, loosen distributor hold-down bolts and turn distributor housing counterclockwise to advance or clockwise to retard timing. Align the pointer with the Red timing mark.
When the job is done, tighten the distributor bolts to 16 ft. lbs. (22 N.m). and recheck timing.
If it is all OK, remove the jumper from the ignition timing check connector. Reinstall the cap into inspection window on the cylinder block.
is the ignition check terminal going to be located with the rest of the harness where it connects to the ecu, and this may be dumb but would it be the same plug that i would jump the check cel codes


