Awesome news from Acura Dealer....
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Awesome news from Acura Dealer....
I went to Brunswick Acura (NJ) to get a couple of maintainence parts for my integra and the salesmen who sold my car to me came up to me and we started bsing and what not......He showed me some bulletins from American Honda...one about the new TSX that will be out later this fall or spring and the other two........One being about the performance package for the RSX (old news) and the other not really a bulletin but dealers are lobbying for the DC5R for fall 2003 (2004) year. No bullshit, Acura intended to have 3 models for the RSX just like the integra. They know that this R if it comes out will have trim levels...one being plain like the older DC2R, the second trim level would include HIDs with the black headlight housing, Recaro seats and...brembo brakes calipers. Those were from his mouth and he knew what he was talking about. He estimated the price to be around 25k for the plain model R and 28-29K for the full performance version. Alot of cash but id bite on the plain model and find the other parts for cheaper.
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Re: Awesome news from Acura Dealer.... (GSRalph)
Well that is shitty that they are going to offer 2 levels of the ITR 
kind of kills its race inspired one of a kind look. Looks like the DC5R is going to be everywhere when it comes out in two different trims 
kind of kills its race inspired one of a kind look. Looks like the DC5R is going to be everywhere when it comes out in two different trims
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Re: Awesome news from Acura Dealer.... (Megatron)
hes about 45 years old and knows jack about anything in import trends. No it still will be limited, just different trim levels
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Re: Awesome news from Acura Dealer.... (GSRalph)
Guys working at dealerships know as much or less than the general public.. i never have figured out where this misconception that any of them know a damned thing came from. 
-Dave, who would not be horribly surprised if the DC5R was sold in NA eventually, but wouldn't be surprised at all if it wasn't.
-Dave, who would not be horribly surprised if the DC5R was sold in NA eventually, but wouldn't be surprised at all if it wasn't.
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Re: Awesome news from Acura Dealer.... (SoFreshAndSoCleanClean)
why even bring this TSX when it's so close to the TL, or is the TL being replaced by the TSX?
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shi - who will be suprised if they do bring the full DC5 as sold in japan (hi comp engine, brembos, recaros, etc..) to the US
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shi - who will be suprised if they do bring the full DC5 as sold in japan (hi comp engine, brembos, recaros, etc..) to the US
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Re: Awesome news from Acura Dealer.... (yoshi234)
the TL is staying. They want to redeisgn for the 2004 model year. The TSX is going to be the in between of the RSX and CL/TL. The engine should be smog legal, look at the s2000 (11:1 compression) it has ulev rating in cali
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Re: Awesome news from Acura Dealer.... (GSRalph)
the TL is staying. They want to redeisgn for the 2004 model year. The TSX is going to be the in between of the RSX and CL/TL
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Re: Awesome news from Acura Dealer.... (GSRalph)
I have been told at dealerships here in the Chicagoland area that an RSX-S could wipe my ITR clean off the planet in acceleration, top speed, braking, handling, etc. I mean serious arguements with uninformed salesmen. More than one, actually, about three times now. Are you serious? Wierdos. Then he proceeded to ask about my car, which of course proved that his entire argument about 'how great' the RSX-S meant relatively nothing, since he had no clue what he was comparing it to. (this is not an RSX-S bashing)
My point is this: I wouldn't believe much a salesman said at an acura dealership without some sort of documentation or honda/acura publication. Show me something of the plans for these two DC5-R's coming to the US. They shoot from the hip (at least 50-75% of them, if not more) with all kinds of bs.
It would be excellent if there was even one trim level of the DC5-R, let alone two! I just don't believe it. I'd like to see where he got that info from, I guarantee he has no official publication, no written documentation to back it up. Sorry to be so pessimistic.... I've heard way to much wierd stuff from honda/acura salesmen.
Edit: I need to learn how to make coherent statements.
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My point is this: I wouldn't believe much a salesman said at an acura dealership without some sort of documentation or honda/acura publication. Show me something of the plans for these two DC5-R's coming to the US. They shoot from the hip (at least 50-75% of them, if not more) with all kinds of bs.
It would be excellent if there was even one trim level of the DC5-R, let alone two! I just don't believe it. I'd like to see where he got that info from, I guarantee he has no official publication, no written documentation to back it up. Sorry to be so pessimistic.... I've heard way to much wierd stuff from honda/acura salesmen.
Edit: I need to learn how to make coherent statements.
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Re: Awesome news from Acura Dealer.... (1107)
Your right he could be bsing, but why bs when there not even here. People didnt think there was going to a Civic si and it came out rather quickly. As far as trim levels, its a $$$ thing..people will pay 3500-4000 more the car when the actual parts cost maybe 1500-2000. No bulletin on The RSX-R just that Acura dealers are pushing American Honda to step up due to the coming release of the Lancer EVO, Nissan Z and other cars
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Re: Awesome news from Acura Dealer.... (GSRalph)
Your right he could be bsing, but why bs when there not even here. People didnt think there was going to a Civic si and it came out rather quickly.
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Re: Awesome news from Acura Dealer.... (GSRalph)
No the Type R won't be comming because Megatron said Honda will have to make new emblems which would cost Honda a pretty penny and it's not worth it for them to bring it over because of the emblems
HAHAHAHA
That is the most rediculous thing I've ever heard
HAHAHAHA
That is the most rediculous thing I've ever heard
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Re: Awesome news from Acura Dealer.... (onyx00)
Thats cool......Im just like the rest I'll believe it when I see it. BUt isn't this exact same thing before the DC2R came out here in the US? At first we were, then we weren't and then we were? He didnt say we were getting it, only that the dealers are lobbying for it (read the context clues), and they always get what they want.
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Re: Awesome news from Acura Dealer.... (GSRalph)
This was just recently posted from some dude at another forum
I'll believe it when Honda makes a statement
I'll believe it when Honda makes a statement
Long time no see to all the regulars (most of 'em are moderator now LOL!!)
Anyway, (to newbies who couldn't read my post long time ago along with my other predictions such as Civic Si, six speed 3.2 CL) Type-R will be arriving to US in 2003 (mid-season) or early 2004 (highly unlikely)...VERY LIMITED (less then 1000) for those who were interested. For those who already know this, iggy this post.
specs:
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
Country of origin Japan
WARRANTY
Warranty - description 3 yr, 100,000km, 3 yr paint, 6 yr corrosion
Warranty - vehicle in years 3
Warranty - vehicle in km 100,000
Warranty - paint in years 3
Warranty - perforation corrosion in years 6
Minor service interval (oil change - km) 10,000
Major service interval (km) 40,000
ENGINE
Engine code K20A2
Engine location Front
Engine orientation Transverse
Engine description Four cylinders, in-line, chain-driven DOHC, four valves per cylinder, variable valve timing and lift, all alloy, cast-iron cylinder liners.
Configuration In-line
Cylinders 4cyl
Cam drive Chain
Valve train DOHC
Valves per cylinder 4v
Variable valve actuation Timing and lift
Block material Aluminium alloy
Cylinder liners Cast-iron
Sump material Aluminium alloy
Head material Aluminium alloy
Inlet manifold material Aluminium alloy
Capacity (cm3) 1998cm3
Bore & Stroke 86.0x86.0mm
Bore 86.0mm
Stroke 86.0mm
Compression ratio 11.0:1
Maximum power 220hp
Maximum torque 156*
Induction system Electronic port fuel injection
Fuel system type PFI
Fuel type 95 RON PULP (89 octane unleaded or higher)
Fuel tank capacity 50 litres
HOW BIG
Body construction Monocoque
Length (mm) 4400
Width (mm) 1725
Height (mm) 1400
Wheelbase (mm) 2570
Track - front (mm) 1485
Track - rear (mm) 1485
Kerb mass (kg) 1160
Tare mass (kg) 1160
Ground clearance (mm) 112
Seating capacity 4
Head room - front (mm) 960
Head room - second row/rear (mm) 866
SUSPENSION
Suspension/front description Independent, MacPherson struts, fabricated steel lower A-arms, steel sub-frame, coil springs, gas dampers, jointed mount anti-roll bar
Suspension/fr - axle Independent
Suspension/fr - upper link material Pressed steel
Suspension/fr - upper link MacPherson strut
Suspension/fr - lower link material Fabricated steel
Suspension/fr - lower link A-arm
Suspension/fr - frame material Steel
Suspension/fr - suspension mounting Sub-frame
Suspension/fr - spring type Coil
Suspension/fr - damper type Gas
Suspension/fr - stabiliser bar Jointed mount
Suspension/rear description Independent, double wishbones, fabricated steel, lower A-arm, fabricated steel upper I-arm, steel sub-frame, coil springs, gas dampers, jointed mount anti-roll bar
Suspension/rr - axle Independent
Suspension/rr - upper link material Fabricated steel
Suspension/rr - upper link I-arm
Suspension/rr - lower link material Fabricated steel
Suspension/rr - lower link A-arm
Suspension/rr - frame material Steel
Suspension/rr - suspension mounting Sub-frame
Suspension/rr - spring type Coil
Suspension/rr - damper type Gas
Suspension/rr - stabiliser bar Jointed mount
Independent rear suspension (IRS) STD
Sports suspension STD
Gas dampers STD
Limited slip differential STD
Four wheel discs STD
STEERING
Steering description Rack and pinion, power assisted
Steering type Rack and pinion
Steering operation Power assisted
Turning circle - between kerbs (metres) 11.6
Steering ratio 15.1:1
Turns lock to lock 2.53
TRANSMISSION
Transmission description Six speed manual
Transmission type 6 man
Ratio 1 3.266:1
Ratio 2 2.130:1
Ratio 3 1.517:1
Ratio 4 1.212:1
Ratio 5 0.972:1
Ratio 6 0.780:1
Reverse 3.583:1
Final drive ratio 4.764:1
Final drive location Front
WHEELS
Brakes ABS is standard
ABS type Nissin NK8
ABS - number of channels 3
ABS - number of sensors 4
ABS - operation All wheels
Front brake description Ventilated discs
Front - diameter (mm) 300
Front - thickness (mm) 25
Rear brake description Discs
Rear - diameter (mm) 260
Rear - thickness (mm) 9
Parkbrake Centre lever
Rim material Alloy
Front rim description 6.5JJx16
Front rim width 6.5
Front rim contour designation JJ
Front rim diameter 16
Rear rim description 6.5JJx16
Rear rim width 6.5
Rear rim contour designation JJ
Rear rim diameter 16
Tyre brand Bridgestone Potenza RE030
Front tyre description 205/55 R16 89V
Front tyre - width 205
Front tyre - aspect ratio 55
Front tyre - construction Radial
Front tyre - load index 89
Front tyre - speed rating V
Rear tyre description 205/55 R16 89V
Rear tyre - width 205
Rear tyre - aspect ratio 55
Rear tyre - construction Radial
Rear tyre - load index 89
Rear tyre - speed rating V
Spare rim Steel spacesaver
Spare tyre T125/70 D16 96M
Spare tyre brand Bridgestone Tracompa
Anyway, (to newbies who couldn't read my post long time ago along with my other predictions such as Civic Si, six speed 3.2 CL) Type-R will be arriving to US in 2003 (mid-season) or early 2004 (highly unlikely)...VERY LIMITED (less then 1000) for those who were interested. For those who already know this, iggy this post.
specs:
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
Country of origin Japan
WARRANTY
Warranty - description 3 yr, 100,000km, 3 yr paint, 6 yr corrosion
Warranty - vehicle in years 3
Warranty - vehicle in km 100,000
Warranty - paint in years 3
Warranty - perforation corrosion in years 6
Minor service interval (oil change - km) 10,000
Major service interval (km) 40,000
ENGINE
Engine code K20A2
Engine location Front
Engine orientation Transverse
Engine description Four cylinders, in-line, chain-driven DOHC, four valves per cylinder, variable valve timing and lift, all alloy, cast-iron cylinder liners.
Configuration In-line
Cylinders 4cyl
Cam drive Chain
Valve train DOHC
Valves per cylinder 4v
Variable valve actuation Timing and lift
Block material Aluminium alloy
Cylinder liners Cast-iron
Sump material Aluminium alloy
Head material Aluminium alloy
Inlet manifold material Aluminium alloy
Capacity (cm3) 1998cm3
Bore & Stroke 86.0x86.0mm
Bore 86.0mm
Stroke 86.0mm
Compression ratio 11.0:1
Maximum power 220hp
Maximum torque 156*
Induction system Electronic port fuel injection
Fuel system type PFI
Fuel type 95 RON PULP (89 octane unleaded or higher)
Fuel tank capacity 50 litres
HOW BIG
Body construction Monocoque
Length (mm) 4400
Width (mm) 1725
Height (mm) 1400
Wheelbase (mm) 2570
Track - front (mm) 1485
Track - rear (mm) 1485
Kerb mass (kg) 1160
Tare mass (kg) 1160
Ground clearance (mm) 112
Seating capacity 4
Head room - front (mm) 960
Head room - second row/rear (mm) 866
SUSPENSION
Suspension/front description Independent, MacPherson struts, fabricated steel lower A-arms, steel sub-frame, coil springs, gas dampers, jointed mount anti-roll bar
Suspension/fr - axle Independent
Suspension/fr - upper link material Pressed steel
Suspension/fr - upper link MacPherson strut
Suspension/fr - lower link material Fabricated steel
Suspension/fr - lower link A-arm
Suspension/fr - frame material Steel
Suspension/fr - suspension mounting Sub-frame
Suspension/fr - spring type Coil
Suspension/fr - damper type Gas
Suspension/fr - stabiliser bar Jointed mount
Suspension/rear description Independent, double wishbones, fabricated steel, lower A-arm, fabricated steel upper I-arm, steel sub-frame, coil springs, gas dampers, jointed mount anti-roll bar
Suspension/rr - axle Independent
Suspension/rr - upper link material Fabricated steel
Suspension/rr - upper link I-arm
Suspension/rr - lower link material Fabricated steel
Suspension/rr - lower link A-arm
Suspension/rr - frame material Steel
Suspension/rr - suspension mounting Sub-frame
Suspension/rr - spring type Coil
Suspension/rr - damper type Gas
Suspension/rr - stabiliser bar Jointed mount
Independent rear suspension (IRS) STD
Sports suspension STD
Gas dampers STD
Limited slip differential STD
Four wheel discs STD
STEERING
Steering description Rack and pinion, power assisted
Steering type Rack and pinion
Steering operation Power assisted
Turning circle - between kerbs (metres) 11.6
Steering ratio 15.1:1
Turns lock to lock 2.53
TRANSMISSION
Transmission description Six speed manual
Transmission type 6 man
Ratio 1 3.266:1
Ratio 2 2.130:1
Ratio 3 1.517:1
Ratio 4 1.212:1
Ratio 5 0.972:1
Ratio 6 0.780:1
Reverse 3.583:1
Final drive ratio 4.764:1
Final drive location Front
WHEELS
Brakes ABS is standard
ABS type Nissin NK8
ABS - number of channels 3
ABS - number of sensors 4
ABS - operation All wheels
Front brake description Ventilated discs
Front - diameter (mm) 300
Front - thickness (mm) 25
Rear brake description Discs
Rear - diameter (mm) 260
Rear - thickness (mm) 9
Parkbrake Centre lever
Rim material Alloy
Front rim description 6.5JJx16
Front rim width 6.5
Front rim contour designation JJ
Front rim diameter 16
Rear rim description 6.5JJx16
Rear rim width 6.5
Rear rim contour designation JJ
Rear rim diameter 16
Tyre brand Bridgestone Potenza RE030
Front tyre description 205/55 R16 89V
Front tyre - width 205
Front tyre - aspect ratio 55
Front tyre - construction Radial
Front tyre - load index 89
Front tyre - speed rating V
Rear tyre description 205/55 R16 89V
Rear tyre - width 205
Rear tyre - aspect ratio 55
Rear tyre - construction Radial
Rear tyre - load index 89
Rear tyre - speed rating V
Spare rim Steel spacesaver
Spare tyre T125/70 D16 96M
Spare tyre brand Bridgestone Tracompa
the price (msrp) will be around ball park of $26-27K depending on how every dealer marks them up (most likely).
It will NOT be 17'inch wheels.. still 16' inch with different rims..for now.. BUT then, who knows specs tend to change.
and yes.. I use to work for Acura.. where I saw honda's 5 year schedule.
It will NOT be 17'inch wheels.. still 16' inch with different rims..for now.. BUT then, who knows specs tend to change.
and yes.. I use to work for Acura.. where I saw honda's 5 year schedule.
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Re: Awesome news from Acura Dealer.... (GSRalph)
i think all he is saying is that the dealers are getting together and ASKING TO BRING THE THING OVER not that IT IS COMING OVER. even a monkey can relay that info.
