I bought a 96 Honda del sol with the intention of restoring it from its current basic running condition and the entire thing has been a nightmare. I ordered a B16 vtec motor for the car...or so I thought...on the site it doesnt say the mileage of any motor or that its used. It just says hot item, has a stock picture of a new motor and says its on sale. So I got the thing and the site totally jipped me and sent me a USED motor with some broken mounts and then putting it in was a nightmare because the motor despite having "b16" written in pen or whatever on it, seemed somewhat bigger? So I put it in and we go to attach my headers and they dont line up quit right...thats when we figure out these guys not only sent me a used motor, but a B18.
So I had to modify the entire car and rewire it for that. (which I prolly would have had to rewire it anyway).

But the shift linkage I have is to short and I am aware you MUST get linkage for this type of motor swap. I just wanna buy new linkage for as cheap as possible from a REPUTABLE site so I don't get screwed again.

I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction? And make sure the linkage is compatible with a B series 1.8 liter?

Any help will be very appreciated!

 

Another problem has arisen, I ordered what was supposed to be vtec radiator hoses for the motor and honda sent me the ones I already had that don't fit, they're to short.

Can someone please help? These things are all I'm missing to put the car on the road.

 

man, i'd get ahold of the peeps behind the mess and get yo B16. but for the shift linkage, you should just need the Del Sol VTEC (1996= B16A2) shift linkage.

 

So then this is likely to work?

http://www.inlinefour.com/hondelsolvte.html

And I'm just gonna deal with the B18.

If that works than all I need is the hose issue solved thats really puzzling me.

 

The hoses you need will have to come from another B18/16 vehicle. It is possible that the hoses for the stock B16 VTEC Del Sol from 1997 would work. Those hoses were designed for a B-series engine and for the Del Sol engine compartment which makes them good candidates for your situation since they should have the right length, diameter, and hose bends.

Otherwise, you may have to make your own hoses out of some silicone B18 hoses from an Integra. You can purchase silicone hoses in "universal" lengths. The thing you need to pay attention to is the diameter of the hose. The stock B18 uses a 30mm internal diameter hose so only B-series hose will be of the right diameter. I know this from personal experience (long story.)

Check out http://www.mishimoto.com/acura-integ...tor-94-01.html for some good silicone hoses.

They are pricey but make your engine compartment look damn good.

 

Why are you complaining about the B18? The B18 is a better motor than the B16, IMO, even though it might be a bit harder to integrate it into your del sol. I think you gained from the motor if they sold you a B18 for the price of a B16.

 

yep, thats the one. i honestly didn't know the hoses were different between B16, and B18. so i'd take the other HT members advice on that issue.

 

I'm not complaining, thats why I kept it, its just more work than i expected.

 

I meant to say that the hose diameter is the same for B16 and B18 motors, 30mm. The D-series motors are 28mm. So, I was trying to advise the OP to make sure to buy B-series hoses otherwise they won't work. It seems obvious but I actually had an issue with hose diameters not matching up from the radiator to the thermostat housing and front engine housing.

So, he should get the hoses from the B16 Del Sol as they should fit his B18 motor...both in diameter and length.

 

that depends on the B16 he ordered, and the B18 he ended up with. and fyi, i'd complain too if i wanted a B16 and got something else. most people don't order something cause they wanted something else....anyway, lets just help the man out and hope he gets his Sol on the road.

 

But I ordered vtech radiator hoses for a del sol from honda (im assuming that would be the b16 hose) so isnt that what youre telling me would work?

 

All I'm saying is that this could be a good thing if you wanted a B18 and couldn't afford it. If you really want a B16, it's not.

And for the hoses, vtec has nothing to do with it. There's a d16 motor with vtec and even though I'm not sure about this, I think the d16 has a smaller diameter hoses than the B16. So you need to buy hoses for the appropriate motor/radiator.

 

Those should be the correct hoses but I guess you're saying they aren't long enough. If that is the case you will likely need to go with some aftermarket silicone hoses or maybe with some Integra hoses. Since your motor is the B18 out of an Integra it makes some sense that you could use the Integra hoses for your purpose.
They might be longer than those used on the Del Sol but I am not 100% certain of that. The only problem I can think of is that stock hoses are designed for a pretty precise fit. As such when you swap motors out of one car and into another the distances can vary by as much as 2-3" or more in some cases.
Personally, I would measure the distance with a piece of string. Route the string in the direction that you would route the hose. Make sure there is some slack in the string and that it bends through the routing clamps on the motor. Take that string and measure it on a tape measure.

Hopefully, doing that will give you an accurate measurement that you can use when you go to the dealer or Autozone to look at hoses used on the Integra.

The only other way is to get a Samco universal silicone hose kit and cut it to length. But those kits are like $80...where stock hoses are only $25.

 

Im not working on my car directly, I have a mechanic friend who runs a mom and pop shop in my town whose doing it and he said that the hoses don't fit but a friend of mine said they should and doesn't understand why they wouldn't...so including you thats two people who don't get why they don't fit...I think my mechanic is doing something wrong. (not on purpose hes a good guy and ive known him for years)

 

Sounds like he may be running in to some problem that he isn't able to describe accurately. Saying something "doesn't fit" can mean 17 different things. I would ask him specifically why the hoses don't fit? Have him be specific. Ask about all the dimensions: length, diameter, directional-bends, and locations. Because according to the Honda manual the Del Sol VTEC hoses should fit any B-series motor in that car.

You may want to ask the mechanic about the location of the thermostat housing on that motor. I seem to remember that the B-series motors differ slightly on the location of that mount. If the B18 motor's thermostat housing mount is tucked further behind the motor than the B16 then the stock VTEC Del Sol lower hose won't be long enough. The upper mount is very obviously on the front of the motor and it has been located there forever and doesn't really vary much from engine to engine so it isn't like to be the culprit.

My bet is that the lower hose isn't long enough due to the location of the thermostat housing on the B18.

 

Apparently both ends of the pipe are the same size and need to be different sizes?

 

I went down to the shop and took some pictures to give you a better idea of what im dealin with.

This is the motor I took out.

This is the one that went in...









Despite the fact this is written on it, its a B18 something...

 

Damn, in that picture it looks like your rear wheel has some serious toe out.

 

i dont what your smoking but you got a b16a they sent you the correct motor

 

okay then the header didn't line up for some other reason...and the toe is out because the tires are turned because its parked that way.

anyway, any idea on what hoses I should get from this?

 

Go back to Honda and tell them they sent you the wrong hoses. You need some for a Del Sol Vtec model with the 1.6L DOHC Vtec. I bet they sent you ones for the 1.6L SOHC Vtec

 

THAT sounds reasonable...would the one end of the hose be larger?

 

I found out today, they are the right hoses and the reason they don't fit, is because whoever had this motor before me, put on different turkey necks for the hoses on the motor. They don't fit. Those necks could be from any motor from 90 to 2000. I'll NEVER figure that out. I'm ****ed. I have to sell the car.

 

what don't you just buy the right turkey neck for that engine.

 

Because I'm running out of money, then I pay to pay the labor for them to tear the motor open and put it on, and at this point, im seriously doubting the condition of this motor. Who knows what other surprises it holds.