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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 07:44 AM
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ok i've done enough research to know but my problem isn't knowing what to do for the track but more for my DD i'm a bit stumped. i went on friday and spent some of the weekend trying to find the right answer to my questions. so here is what i've started in parts, then the specs of my algnment and the the parts i'm considering.

i have a 91 civic hatchback Dx. i replaced my whole suspension.

replaced every bushing w/hyperflex energy suspension and what they didn't have i bought from the honda dealer.



i replaced the the LCA w/SI one(i didn't need the front but i still needed a extra pair to not be down) and i also add and replaced my sway bars w/a 22mm 93 Integra front sway bar and a Si rear sway bar.




now i replace my struts and springs w/Tokico HP Blues and RS*R Racing Springs - F/6.10kg(341lbs) & R/4.20kg(235lbs).



now here's my specs of my aligment:

VEHICAL ALIGNMENT REPORT
Honda , 1991, Civic

PRIMARY ANGLES
Specification
Intinal - Min. - Max.(middle two number)- Final
Front - Caster
L 3.8* 2.0* 4.0* 3.9*
R 4.1* 2.0* 4.0* 4.2*
Camber
L -1.3* -1.0* 1.0* -1.5*
R -1.9* -1.0* 1.0* -1.9*
Toe
L -0.79" 0.03" 0.06" 0.05"
R -0.65" 0.03" 0.06" 0.05"

Total -1.45 0.06" 0.12" 0.10"

Rear - Camber
L -1.5* -1.4* 0.6* -1.4*
R -2.0* -1.4* 0.6* -2.3*
Toe
L 0.01" 0.03" 0.06" 0.05"
R 0.22" 0.03" 0.06" 0.02"

Total 0.23" 0.06" 0.12" 0.07"

Thrust Angles -0.2* --- --- 0.0*

sp now the question here is what can i buy to correct this problem and not have to worry to much. or should i say which product would be more DD friendly and not track. it must stand the everyday tear and wear. here's what i'm looking into granted the rear is a given it's more of which one will be better in the front aspect.

Ingalls Rear camber kit



Ingalls Front ball joint kit



Ingalls Adjustable upper control arm mount



Revo Adjustable upper control arm ball joint



any info will help in helping me buying what i need...

thanks

remo
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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Don't even worry about those things. My car has similar camber readings as yours and I DD the car to and from work every day. Been doing it with lowered suspension for the past 175K miles, and in that time I've worn through probably 5 sets of tires. NO camber correction at all. All suspension arms on my car are stock.

Toe wears tires, not camber. All of your toe readings are within spec, so you should be fine. Just rotate the tires every 5K miles or so to be safe.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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you front is fine. there should be no reason to worry about that.

the only off thing is the RR camber. put a shim underneath the upper control arm bolts to push it out a bit.

but youll need to align the car again if you mess with it. just to deal with the change in toe since you changed the camber. you can try it yourself or go back to see if the shop can do it again.


ps. YIKES look at that toe out in the front as the initial readings...
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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yeah dang massive toe out up front initially. It was probably off even before it was lowered.

dangit Tyson now I don't recognize your posts anymore since you changed the avatar
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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thanks guys for the help. now i know what to do. also i went thru a good set of tires in 4 days before i knew something was wrong. they looked like charlie chaplin shoes sticking out. lol
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by remoer
thanks guys for the help. now i know what to do. also i went thru a good set of tires in 4 days before i knew something was wrong. they looked like charlie chaplin shoes sticking out. lol

it wasnt the -1.5 degrees of camber for sure... lol
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 02:30 AM
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so the wash trick will work but the question is how thick sould the washer be and how much will it correct?
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