CHP Inspection
I got pulled over last week and they made me pop my hood and now they are sending me to the CHP for an inspection.
I have a Ls Vtec motor
Mods:
GSR Head
B18B1 Block
GSR Tranny
Blox Intake Manifold
Generic Intake
Dc Headers
ITR Cams and Cam Gears
ITR Pistons
ITR Valves and Springs
A Chipped P28 ECU
You think i will pass the inspection?
The Block, Head, and Tranny were bought from redzone in Fremont, CA.
So they dont match my cars VIN.
I have a Ls Vtec motor
Mods:
GSR Head
B18B1 Block
GSR Tranny
Blox Intake Manifold
Generic Intake
Dc Headers
ITR Cams and Cam Gears
ITR Pistons
ITR Valves and Springs
A Chipped P28 ECU
You think i will pass the inspection?
The Block, Head, and Tranny were bought from redzone in Fremont, CA.
So they dont match my cars VIN.
Last edited by new.era.13; Jun 17, 2009 at 12:50 PM.
Well, first, you need to know that the LS/Vtec is illegal in California. Your Blox intake manifold isn't carb legal (if I remember correctly) so it won't pass either. The generic intake won't pass, not carb legal either. The DC headers will pass, if they still have the carb plate welded on it. All the ITR internals you could probably get away with, since they can't really check.
BUT this is the CHP, and not the state reff, so you might get lucky. I'd change the intake to an OEM one, as well as the headers, even if they are Carb legal, just because I'd want the engine looking as stock as possible. Good luck man.
BUT this is the CHP, and not the state reff, so you might get lucky. I'd change the intake to an OEM one, as well as the headers, even if they are Carb legal, just because I'd want the engine looking as stock as possible. Good luck man.
sorry about the CHP Inspection part. I just got something in the mail, saything that i have to bring it to State Referee now, so nearly im just screwed, i just have to end up paying the fine?
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If you recieved a ticket from CHP for the "illegal parts" like the generic intake w/o carb # then you could be paying a fine. Not completely sure what would happen if the Ref was to your Ls Vtec. First they would check for the block number and they would know that Ls blocks dont have vtec heads. What car is this in?
This is the picture of my motor. Its in my 94 Integra LS.
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You have an illegal engine setup, and you got caught. If you can't afford to get caught, you shouldn't be running illegal parts to begin with.
To add something constructive, what you can do will depend on if they only need a CHP inspection, or if you have to go to a state ref. With a state ref, you won't ever pass with non-legal parts. With the CHP, you might be able to get away with all CARB approved parts on the LSV, if they don't know they're looking at (and thats a big if).
And before you think I'm a hyprocite, I've probably spent at least $1,200 over the years "tipping" various smog techs, before I gave up on the whole ordeal and decided to drive a smog compliant car. And I had to write "smog compliant", because it still isn't legal...
doing a quick swap with a stock motor is the easiest way. otherwise lets see:
GSR Head
B18B1 Block
those 2 are a no go together. get a LS head, probably cheaper then getting a GSR block
GSR Tranny
tranny is fine
Blox Intake Manifold
not carb legal, get a used one from a scrap yard
Generic Intake
not carb legal
Dc Headers
thats fine
ITR Cams and Cam Gears
cam gears are b series generic i believe. they cant see the cams so no prob there.
ITR Pistons
cant see the pistons, no problem
ITR Valves and Springs
cant see those either
A Chipped P28 ECU
if it looks stock from the outside you should be ok
GSR Head
B18B1 Block
those 2 are a no go together. get a LS head, probably cheaper then getting a GSR block
GSR Tranny
tranny is fine
Blox Intake Manifold
not carb legal, get a used one from a scrap yard
Generic Intake
not carb legal
Dc Headers
thats fine
ITR Cams and Cam Gears
cam gears are b series generic i believe. they cant see the cams so no prob there.
ITR Pistons
cant see the pistons, no problem
ITR Valves and Springs
cant see those either
A Chipped P28 ECU
if it looks stock from the outside you should be ok
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This isnt 100 accurate. All it takes is for the Ref to take a look at the ecu lable to see what kind of ecu it is. They have a reference book on virtually every honda engine/ecu. ecu has to be the original type to the engine. the way I know is that they checked on my integra to make sure that i swapped out the reprogramed ecu i had on the jdm LS block i had in the car the first time i was at there shop( i went in for a second visit to try and correct the violation) reason why they looked at it the first time was because it was in plain sight with the kick panel removed. good luck. just drop in an ls with an appropriate ecu and you should be fine.
you guys are all right, but i didnt build this motor to be like this. I bought this car like this, i didnt know ls vtec were illegal. if i knew, i would have spend more money and just bought a gsr. this is my third integra already in the pass year. my first one was totaled by a mexican lady and her GMC. My second one was a gsr with a JDM front end, but the since i bought the car hmong people, the motor was all ****ed up and the JDM front was held up by zip ties. and now i found this car, and it runs great and i dynoed at 208 hp and 168 tq. but ****, i just dont have the money to get it swapped
Say i fail the state referee inspection, what will they do to the car? People are telling me i can just not do the inspection and just pay the fine for the car. Will that make the car legal again? Or will this just happen again?
well when i got my fix it ticket for exhaust and illegal smog devices, i was just going to be like the hell with it pay the I THINK $300 fine. My dad told me if you pay the fine, you have to go to court and i think explain to them why or something like that(dont really remember). But if you dont pass from the referre, they'll just keep making you go back until your car passes but not pass your dead line. Make sure to make an appointment cause for me it took like a wwek and a half to c the ref.
so if i fail the inspection, i have to keep going until i pass? because i got the three three weeks ago, and my court date was already made for the 26th of this month. i know im going to fail this inspection, because me car blows out black smoke when hitting vtec.
So if i just pay the fine, does it make my car legal or does it mean i can get pulled over again and do this whole process again??
So if i just pay the fine, does it make my car legal or does it mean i can get pulled over again and do this whole process again??
so if i fail the inspection, i have to keep going until i pass? because i got the three three weeks ago, and my court date was already made for the 26th of this month. i know im going to fail this inspection, because me car blows out black smoke when hitting vtec.
So if i just pay the fine, does it make my car legal or does it mean i can get pulled over again and do this whole process again??
So if i just pay the fine, does it make my car legal or does it mean i can get pulled over again and do this whole process again??
OK, do you guys know how easy it is to revert back to an LS head? since you have to tap oil lines yada yada for the VTEC head.
It seems like you have to do something, because either way you'll end up being money. Someone mantioned putting an LS head back on, which seems to be the "easiest" thing you could do. I know you said you're 17 and don't have much money, but LS heads are pretty cheap, as well as stock LS intake manifolds.
It seems like you have to do something, because either way you'll end up being money. Someone mantioned putting an LS head back on, which seems to be the "easiest" thing you could do. I know you said you're 17 and don't have much money, but LS heads are pretty cheap, as well as stock LS intake manifolds.
Technically, you can't legally sell an illegal car. And there is no "sold as is" with smog compliance permitted by law. You can sue the previous owner for all costs to make the car smog compliant, as long as it was registered for street use when you bought it...
So obviously you got pulled over or cited for not having "carb legal" components. Either have your intake, manifolds components stock or have carb #'s for that car,Integra Ls/rs, not gsr or type r or civic and bring your receipts from purchase. If everything is legit you should be fine. Chp doesn't smog your car, they check for legitimacy and state ref smogs your car, they don't run your vin's.
edit: Don't forget your Ls head and they can take your parts or worse your car for good. What the f*** did you get cited for? It should of been to the Ref station.
edit: I forgot to read about the,"I got the mail, it's ref not...". Anyways you might get lucky from what I mentioned on top, if not then you get the idea.
edit: Don't forget your Ls head and they can take your parts or worse your car for good. What the f*** did you get cited for? It should of been to the Ref station.
edit: I forgot to read about the,"I got the mail, it's ref not...". Anyways you might get lucky from what I mentioned on top, if not then you get the idea.
Last edited by rhymeshark916; Jun 9, 2009 at 08:26 PM. Reason: edit
You will have to pay a huge fine AND make the car street legal. Paying the fine does not make it legal. I paid 350 for have a non carb compliant part even though I replaced it with a legal one on my second ref inspection.
this is a state referee inspection, not a CHP inspection. Well the previous owner didnt build this car either. It was the guy before him that paid for it to be built. At Redzone Performance in Fremont, CA. I am the fifth owner of this car. I dont know what to do.



, and rent him a car