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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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hey im finishing up my gsr swap into my 94 del sol si. i just wanna make sure i got everything right. ive looked in the faq, but its not very clear on what parts needed because im piecing it together.
so what i have is gsr long block with a ls hydro trans. mounts and shift linkage
one thing that i dont know about though are the axles. will da axles work? also im using a obd1 gsr engine harness and p72 ecu, do i have to worry about moving any wires? or just plug and play? one little thing too is how can i tell the difference between a us and jdm gsr intake manifolds, im trying to bar the car so that's why im asking.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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very nice, plug and play everything. jdm intake mani looks like the type r style. the usdm is gay and has the reverse snail deal .get rid of it and get a nice intake mani(type r style)
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rick_rabies
jdm intake mani looks like the type r style.
This is partially correct. There are 2 types of JDM B18C motors. One that is a GSR motor and one that is a Type R motor. There is a JDM GSR intake manifold that looks exactly like the USDM intake manifold with the dual butterfly design. The only real difference between the JDM and USDM GSR intake manifolds is that the USDM version has a nipple for the EVAP purge solenoid. The USDM GSR intake manifold is not total crap. It is designed that way so you have low-end "torque" until you reach the VTEC crossover.

To OP: If you are trying to BAR the car, then you need the USDM GSR intake manifold and need to have all your emissions equipment hooked up.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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make sure you have del sol dohc linkage because integra wont fir
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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just for the records, gsr swap is not plug and play. the pink/blue wire is actually for the evap, not the red wire on the engine wiring harness, even tho the wiring diagram in chiltons says otherwise. you must add 1 wire for the knock sensor on the chasis wiring harness, iabs must also be added to the chassis harness, one wire going to the ecu and 1 wire for the ground for the iabs should be connected to the fuel injector grounds. hopefully this helps people in the future.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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your integra linkages won't work.. I had to order some b series del sol linkages from H motors online.. cheapest place I could find them.. it was $150.. but also, no the da axles won't work.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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your integra linkages won't work.. I had to order some b series del sol linkages from H motors online.. cheapest place I could find them.. it was $150.. but also, no the da axles won't work.
this has already been posted and yes da axles will work as long as you use a da halfshaft
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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ya where did u come up with me using a integra linkage. neways, ya i have the full da setup cuz i had it on my ef a while ago. im really tempted to make a write up cuz it was a pain getting info on a gsr into a del sol
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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this has already been posted and yes da axles will work as long as you use a da halfshaft
I know that it had already been posted, but you need to check again on the axles.. I know that they will not work because the DA halfshaft is bigger around on the end that goes into the transmission than the Si end. I know this from experience. The only way to make them work is to take the seal out of the transmission and get a seal that goes into the Cable tranny, but doing this can have a leak from the seal not completely sealing.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 10:42 AM
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so r u saying u have to use different axles for cable and hydro trannys? wat axles do i need
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 91(si)hatchey
so r u saying u have to use different axles for cable and hydro trannys? wat axles do i need
the 94-01 integra axles and half shaft or the 99-00 Si axles and half shaft, but you can use the DA if you change the seal on the tranny where the ends of the axles go in, but as I stated you have a chance of the transmission leaking the tranny fluid and everything. I was going to do this, but I figured it was better to do it right the first time and not have to worry about it leaking.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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alright, well i have the da axles already and dont feel like forking up another couple bills for new ones so these will have to do for a month or so, ill just make sure the seal is nice and clean
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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yeah man, as long as it goes in correctly you shouldn't have a problem, good luck and hope to see pics when you start it...
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 10:57 PM
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for sure im just not primering the engine bay and covering the engine harness. i was gunna use that special loom for the harness but i'd have to take all the connectors off and it'd b way too much work.
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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well mayb i dont know what im doing but the cable tranny seal is huge compared to the hydro tranny seal. there's no way it can fit inside the tranny.
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Your stock D-series axles will work, just take out the B-series half shaft.

You need a Del Sol VTEC (B16A3/2) throttle cable and shift linkage.
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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ya i have the throttle cable. i guess i can get a hold of sohc axles for cheap if i like around, cuz b series axles can get expensive. i have everything for the car now besides the axles and exhaust. i bought the car pretty bare. just basics in the engine bay and interior minus seats, and minus hood,fender and bumper
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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Yeah, you also need an aftermarket exhaust, or a stock del Sol VTEC exhaust.
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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wont any eg exhaust bolt up?
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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wont any eg exhaust bolt up?
No. Why would it? The del sol is nothing like an EG in terms of size/shape.
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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Your stock D-series axles will work, just take out the B-series half shaft.

You need a Del Sol VTEC (B16A3/2) throttle cable and shift linkage.
it'll work on a b series?? I put a d series axle the passenger side of my b16 and all the differential done was spun around the spline..

I have a stock Del Sol S exhaust bolted up to my b16 in my del sol....
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 91(si)hatchey
well mayb i dont know what im doing but the cable tranny seal is huge compared to the hydro tranny seal. there's no way it can fit inside the tranny.
My buddy that put one in his car when he had to do that, he had a lot of problems with it leaking.. so it was kinda rigged in it somehow, but that's why I was trying to tell you to just get the right half shaft and axles for it to work...
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 04:40 AM
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it'll work on a b series?? I put a d series axle the passenger side of my b16 and all the differential done was spun around the spline..

I have a stock Del Sol S exhaust bolted up to my b16 in my del sol....
My D16Y7 axles worked with my B18B on my hatch.

And your S has a D15B which has a different manifold than the D16Y7.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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My D16Y7 axles worked with my B18B on my hatch.

And your S has a D15B which has a different manifold than the D16Y7.
I was just wondering that because he's got it going in a 94 si, so it should have the same kind of exhaust as the S model.. that's good info on the axles though..
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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hmm so now i gotta find a del sol catback exhaust. and d16y7 or probably y8 too axles, cuz im running a b18b trans
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