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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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Default Suspension Gods answer me this

What is the point of a subframe brace, and a rear lower tie bar. I understand the tie bar may do one thing, and the subframe brace obviously braces the subframe, but together the tie bar seems useless. A subframe brace seems to do both the bracing.

So what is the technical functional use of both pieces? I assume the tie bar doesn't do anything but I've had friends who beg to differ.

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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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The answer is just what you thought: POINTLESS!!!!!!!! The ASR brace also acts as a tie bar due to it's size and shape, since it obviously ties both LCA pickup points together, in addition to providing a nice, flat spot for the sway bar D-brackets and reinforcing the subframe.

People who put both bars on there do it for looks, period. They either like the way it looks, or they saw someone else do it and like the way it looks. It DOES NOT provide any additional bracing.

In reality, running both bars costs more, weighs more, and reduces ground clearance, with no real benefits whatsoever.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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JDM Bling Y0!
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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yep, pretty much... and it's not even a JDM part
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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That is true but it gives that illusion that it's the CTR bar.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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hmm maybe.... wannabe JDM bling!
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:24 AM
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Default Re: Suspension Gods answer me this

It looks tight.
Everyone knows it looks tight.
Therefore everyone goes w/ this setup......sadly.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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bleh I don't think it looks tight... I think it looks kinda dumb really.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 09:54 PM
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Default Re: Suspension Gods answer me this

Setup above is more appealing than a lot of other setups, but I don't like most tie bars. If anything a decent subframe brace, but that's it. Thanks though
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 03:15 AM
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Kind of off topic: does anyone know if the D brackets in the picture are available separately?
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Old Jun 6, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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Default Re: Suspension Gods answer me this

Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
The answer is just what you thought: POINTLESS!!!!!!!! The ASR brace also acts as a tie bar due to it's size and shape, since it obviously ties both LCA pickup points together, in addition to providing a nice, flat spot for the sway bar D-brackets and reinforcing the subframe.

People who put both bars on there do it for looks, period. They either like the way it looks, or they saw someone else do it and like the way it looks. It DOES NOT provide any additional bracing.

In reality, running both bars costs more, weighs more, and reduces ground clearance, with no real benefits whatsoever.
what he said.
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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Found a good reason for this now. To protect the ASR subframe brace!!!!

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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 11:28 PM
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^Oh, damn. Legitamate. :D
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 05:49 AM
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Default Re: Suspension Gods answer me this

Originally Posted by STOCK_SOHC_DX
Found a good reason for this now. To protect the ASR subframe brace!!!!

Wow, too low? I hit the front a lot, but the back never comes close.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 06:32 AM
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But it sits BEHIND the ASR brace so it only protects it in reverse.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 06:42 AM
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Default Re: Suspension Gods answer me this

hmm not sure what setup that is pictured with the scraped up bar, but it's not the same as the first pic. In that last pic the tie bar looks nearly even with the ASR brace's lower edge. With the Beaks tie bar in the first pic, it hangs MUCH lower than the ASR brace.

Whatever the car scraped, if there had been a Beaks tie bar there, it could have very well broken the tie bar, which could have caused subframe damage when it happened. This is exactly why you should NOT use a Beaks tie bar in addition to the ASR brace.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 10:46 AM
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Default Re: Suspension Gods answer me this

Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
This is exactly why you should NOT use a Beaks tie bar in addition to the ASR brace.
but how can i be cool without my assortment of pointless annodized parts?
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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you can't man... you just can't....
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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^lol.
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