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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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Default Okay guys I think I finally found an LED turn signal bulb!

just a forewarning, they are EXPENSIVE as hell for $35 a pop..

but i figured i'll bite the bullet and order a pair and of course, post the results. they even make RED ones for taillights but i dont have money for taillight bulbs right now. but i'll still try the amber ones inside the tails anyway and show you guys the results..


in the meantime, here are some pics and link to their site so you can see what i saw







link (with video):
http://www.elef-usa.com/servlet/the-...al-Bulb/Detail


i have a good feeling about these! hopefully they won't let me down. i will post pics and video as soon as i get em!

UPDATE:

Okay I finally received the bulbs. Final verdict: *Not* brighter than filament, at least with this type bulb and my housing. There is a chance I could be getting better results had I chosen the "diffused" version of this bulb. I will be contacting the seller to ask if there is any chance I could exchange the bulb types. But as far as the brightness of the LED altogether, I am very impressed! I don't have any night pics, but I can actually see the LED light bounce off of traffic signs across the intersection when I'm at a stoplight!

Anyways, on to the pics:

Facing sun, blinkers OFF


Facing sun, blinkers ON - LED on left, filament on right - you can definitely see the light from the LED, but not as bright as the filament


Opposite sun, blinkers OFF - I used my hand to block the glare of the sun


Opposite sun, blinkers ON - LED on left, filament on right - you can see how the reflector on the LED bulb blocks light in the center of the blinker area



And as I promised, I went ahead and tried the amber LED inside my taillight housing:

Facing sun, brakes OFF


Facing sun, brakes ON - you can definitely notice the light from the LED, but not as bright as filament. Of course, the red is a little off-color since the amber from the led is more of a "rich" orange.


Opposite sun, brakes OFF


Opposite sun, brakes ON - in this pic you can definitely see the LED light output is not as bright as filament.



Although I am impressed with the brightness of the LED, I can't help but feel that I could be getting better results with the diffused lens bulb type, instead of the reflector bulb type.

Other things worth noting:
I did notice after taking the taillight pics, the LED bulb's metal housing was HOT. It does say on the package of the bulb that this amber LED is for SIGNAL, and not meant to be on constantly. I can definitely see why.

Also, I had previously mentioned the PWM circuitry these things supposedly utilize - well I didn't notice any strobe effect (in running/parking light mode [half intensity]), so if it really is pulsing, its too damn fast for me to notice it at all.


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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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Default Re: Okay guys I think I finally found an LED turn signal bulb!

whats even more exciting (at least to me) is that it utilizes PWM (pulse width modulation) for the "running light" which means you get that cool (or annoying? lol) "strobe" effect like you see on the new Caddy's, Infiniti's, etc
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Yeah as soon as youve had them in for a bit please post pics and experience. I'm curious about these and thought about getting them.
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:12 PM
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*bump*

update at the end of my first post!
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 07:22 AM
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Is there a resistor in them to properly trigger the signal blinker? The fact that I like about LED, especially for brake lights, is their near instantaneous response when electric potential is applied. Standard bulbs have about a 0.1s illumination lag.
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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Is there a resistor in them to properly trigger the signal blinker? The fact that I like about LED, especially for brake lights, is their near instantaneous response when electric potential is applied. Standard bulbs have about a 0.1s illumination lag.
yes, all the workings and circuitry is encased inside the aluminum housing. i couldn't really tell you what it looks like though since it would void my warranty

but you can definitely tell when its blinking when it goes from dim to bright.
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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You just have to be clever with the use of a multimeter.
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 01:12 PM
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I have the same car, thunder grey all the way. Just curious what exhaust you have? Looks good....
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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less expensive, more choices
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/U2-LEDS__W0QQ_armrsZ1
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Originally Posted by szczerbanator
I have the same car, thunder grey all the way. Just curious what exhaust you have? Looks good....
i try to tell everyone, but no one listens to me! lol j/k

its a Borla muffler. #40060 Blow Torch model from their "Boomer" universal muffler series.

yes, it gets special attention when the car gets washed

it sounds good, not the loudest, but has a nice deep tone to it. barely any drone if at all while cruising, but i'm all stock underneath the hood.
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dogginator
You just have to be clever with the use of a multimeter.
Indeed...cool write up, but I'll stick to my stock bulbs.
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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Good find on these! now i know there are some of leds out there to replace my bulbs when i need to
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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okay i went head and sent them back to get the lens cap replaced with the diffused type. i just really don't like how a lot of my blinker light is blocked because of the reflective cap.

it blocks a lot more light than i thought it would, and it makes my blinker look gap-toof at night almost like i got two bulbs for the blinker.

when i get them back i will take more comparison pics!
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eh looks about like the ones I tried from superbrightleds.com. IMHO they are nowhere near bright enough to be used in daylight, and could very well lead to a rear-end collision.
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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Default Re: Okay guys I think I finally found an LED turn signal bulb!

i am wondering if the red bulbs could actually be brighter or let more red light through..

maybe the diffused lens will make a difference? stay tuned patrick
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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Default Re: Okay guys I think I finally found an LED turn signal bulb!

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i am wondering if the red bulbs could actually be brighter or let more red light through..

maybe the diffused lens will make a difference? stay tuned patrick
no its the same i tried it all ready and you can mean tell there red and they are illegal to got a fix it ticket for it because red is only for emergency vehicles only so thats what the copper said
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 04:40 AM
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no its the same i tried it all ready and you can mean tell there red and they are illegal to got a fix it ticket for it because red is only for emergency vehicles only so thats what the copper said
In what jurisdiction is red illegal for tail/brake lights? Never heard of that before. That's what the OP was talking about in the post above.

OP: I tried white vs. red LED bulbs in my brake lights. The red ones were slightly brighter, but nowhere near as bright as regular bulbs.

Really the only acceptable solution is a whole LED array directly behind the lens, custom-fitted of course.

*edit here's my original comparison https://honda-tech.com/forums/lighting-107/ultimate-led-vs-stock-bulb-comparison-2166668/
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 04:44 AM
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eh looks about like the ones I tried from superbrightleds.com. IMHO they are nowhere near bright enough to be used in daylight, and could very well lead to a rear-end collision.
Seriously, the only thing I'd want LED on my car is the license plate light, I really crave that IS350/E92 3series look.
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Default Re: Okay guys I think I finally found an LED turn signal bulb!

my mom's 2007 Camry V6 XLE has hyperwhite LED license plate lights too
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my mom's 2007 Camry V6 XLE has hyperwhite LED license plate lights too
that's full of win. they came OEM equipped?
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indeed. car hauls, too.. 270+hp V6
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 05:08 AM
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indeed. car hauls, too.. 270+hp V6
I love them, especially with the OEM lip kit.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 05:13 AM
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Don't think people know about autolumination.com or superlumination.com, all you have to do is buy the bulb size and it hooks in to original location with no splicing or wiring. Lots of choices and fairly cheap as far as LED's go. Some are fully regulated as well, I use these LED's in my gauge cluster and instrument panel intsead of incandescent, with no issue either, much brighter!



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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Default Re: Okay guys I think I finally found an LED turn signal bulb!

Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
In what jurisdiction is red illegal for tail/brake lights? Never heard of that before. That's what the OP was talking about in the post above.

OP: I tried white vs. red LED bulbs in my brake lights. The red ones were slightly brighter, but nowhere near as bright as regular bulbs.

Really the only acceptable solution is a whole LED array directly behind the lens, custom-fitted of course.

*edit here's my original comparison https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2166668

well i never specified where and i ment for the front turn signals red is illegal not the brake lights
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by integra_661
well i never specified where and i ment for the front turn signals red is illegal not the brake lights
Amusingly, red bulbs are illegal. No clue how that applies to LEDs.
Clear bulb behind red lens, legal. Clear lens and red bulb, illegal.

I can't think of any real justification for it either.

And any red at the front of the car is illegal.
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