coilovers decision time
so i'm currently sitting on just eibach pro-kit on stock shocks & my shocks are going to poop. so i decided that i'm switching to coilovers for a million reasons.
but!! all i can say is wow.. i have never had such a damn hard time on any decision. i've read countless threads on which coilovers are good/bad/decent.. & read multiple threads similar to this one, but i just CAN'T seem to come to a conclusion so i decided to post my own.
my MAIN focuses are: 1. durability/reliability 2. comfort/nice-feeling ride for a DD
it's for my '05 type-s which is my daily driver. to be honest, i drive like a grandma 70% of the time (slow as heck). but like almost everyone else on here.. spirited driving is definitely enjoyable & kicks in every here n' there (the other 30%).
the options i'm considering are: Progress Competition Coilovers (which seems u gotta wait a millenium for), Buddy Club N+, Tein Basics, and Tanabe Sustec PRO S-OC.
for those who either know their stuff or have experienced one or multiple of the mentioned, your opinions are GREATLYYYYYY appreciated. for those with negative comments, i'm sorry for leading u to comment negatively.
but!! all i can say is wow.. i have never had such a damn hard time on any decision. i've read countless threads on which coilovers are good/bad/decent.. & read multiple threads similar to this one, but i just CAN'T seem to come to a conclusion so i decided to post my own.
my MAIN focuses are: 1. durability/reliability 2. comfort/nice-feeling ride for a DD
it's for my '05 type-s which is my daily driver. to be honest, i drive like a grandma 70% of the time (slow as heck). but like almost everyone else on here.. spirited driving is definitely enjoyable & kicks in every here n' there (the other 30%).
the options i'm considering are: Progress Competition Coilovers (which seems u gotta wait a millenium for), Buddy Club N+, Tein Basics, and Tanabe Sustec PRO S-OC.
for those who either know their stuff or have experienced one or multiple of the mentioned, your opinions are GREATLYYYYYY appreciated. for those with negative comments, i'm sorry for leading u to comment negatively.
i just recently got the buddy club n+ and i love them but i do because i really think the handlleing is way better on my car but all the springs are stiffer and you want ride comfort and i mean there not bad but def more bumpy then the stock ones, i think it seems like koni yellows with some good springs is the way to go for ride comfort.
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If you really want a quality coilover your best bet is to save up for some KW Varient 2's. Otherwise go with Koni Yellows and Ground Control sleeve overs with the sport spring rates.
Those are the best out on the market. Konis are nice because they're relatively cheap to rebuild once they're worn out.
You may think that the koni/ground control kit isn't good, however just about every race car in club racing is running them. The best part about them is that they cost about half for an equally competitive coilover setup. $900 setup vs $900 off the shelf coilover which will suffer in performance.
Those are the best out on the market. Konis are nice because they're relatively cheap to rebuild once they're worn out.
You may think that the koni/ground control kit isn't good, however just about every race car in club racing is running them. The best part about them is that they cost about half for an equally competitive coilover setup. $900 setup vs $900 off the shelf coilover which will suffer in performance.
Koni makes a nice shock / spring kit, adjustable shocks and lowers you car 1.5" from factory ride height...the recommended maximum for the EP3. Not sure what you drive from your post...but if you really are truly concerned with a comfortable ride for a non track driven vehicle, and want some good performance for that 30% of the time when your foot starts feeling heavy..I would personally go with a nice shock / spring setup. Will save you some money as well.
You could always switch over to poly bushings too...just a thought.
**edit: lol, while I was typing that someone posted the same exact thing ^^
You could always switch over to poly bushings too...just a thought.
**edit: lol, while I was typing that someone posted the same exact thing ^^
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^ My thoughts exactly. In order for us to help determine which is the best setup, we need to know what your goal is with the car.
- Are you planning on racing?
- Sportier ride and feel with a 1.5" drop?
- or just slamming it to the ground? (If so you'll come across some mechanical issues over time which aren't cheap to fix. Blown steering racks, incorrect suspension geometry and travel, and lower lifespan of your future setup.)
Either choice will help make the proper determination for the correct coilover setup. However i don't recommend slamming the car, because cost of repairs are labor intensive and don't come cheap. Also if you're planning on going this route, you may want to consider a lower cost shock because you're going to be blowing them out really fast.
- Are you planning on racing?
- Sportier ride and feel with a 1.5" drop?
- or just slamming it to the ground? (If so you'll come across some mechanical issues over time which aren't cheap to fix. Blown steering racks, incorrect suspension geometry and travel, and lower lifespan of your future setup.)
Either choice will help make the proper determination for the correct coilover setup. However i don't recommend slamming the car, because cost of repairs are labor intensive and don't come cheap. Also if you're planning on going this route, you may want to consider a lower cost shock because you're going to be blowing them out really fast.
I have experienced the steering rack from hell and blown shocks / worn bushings from the one previous owner of my car who just threw on some lowering springs. Bad deal.
This is what I'm going with: http://www.thmotorsports.com/koni/ko...t/g-52113.aspx
$750 + a full poly bushing set + front/rear camber kits = win
This is what I'm going with: http://www.thmotorsports.com/koni/ko...t/g-52113.aspx
$750 + a full poly bushing set + front/rear camber kits = win
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Yeah that's a good deal for what you're getting. The only reason i do not go with a shock/spring kit is because i need my car to be corner weighted and balanced for racing. Otherwise i would.
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^ My thoughts exactly. In order for us to help determine which is the best setup, we need to know what your goal is with the car.
- Are you planning on racing?
- Sportier ride and feel with a 1.5" drop?
- or just slamming it to the ground? (If so you'll come across some mechanical issues over time which aren't cheap to fix. Blown steering racks, incorrect suspension geometry and travel, and lower lifespan of your future setup.)
Either choice will help make the proper determination for the correct coilover setup. However i don't recommend slamming the car, because cost of repairs are labor intensive and don't come cheap. Also if you're planning on going this route, you may want to consider a lower cost shock because you're going to be blowing them out really fast.
- Are you planning on racing?
- Sportier ride and feel with a 1.5" drop?
- or just slamming it to the ground? (If so you'll come across some mechanical issues over time which aren't cheap to fix. Blown steering racks, incorrect suspension geometry and travel, and lower lifespan of your future setup.)
Either choice will help make the proper determination for the correct coilover setup. However i don't recommend slamming the car, because cost of repairs are labor intensive and don't come cheap. Also if you're planning on going this route, you may want to consider a lower cost shock because you're going to be blowing them out really fast.
btw.. thanks for the feedback.
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Then your best bet would be Koni/GC combo, just don't slam the car. If you keep it within a 1.5-1.8" drop you'll be good. Any lower and you'll be riding on the bump stops. Most people drop their cars below that and that's why they blow their shocks.
My suggestion would be to go that route with the GC sport spring rates. You can buy all the components for less than a $1000. However Progress makes a good coilover as well.
My suggestion would be to go that route with the GC sport spring rates. You can buy all the components for less than a $1000. However Progress makes a good coilover as well.
What about the A-Spec kit? I think that's a cheap reliable way to go. Good ride height, covered under warranty if I'm not mistaken, and you get the quality of an OEM part.
I know these aren't on your list but I'm riding on D2's. Alot of people on here don't like them because they are not as high quality as say Buddy Clubs. While that is true, if your like me your not gonna actually autoX your car, just daily drive it and have a lil fun here and there. The D2's are 32way adjustable, but I just keep mine on the stiffest settings all the time. I'm very pleased with the ride considering the price. DO NOT GET THESE IF YOU ARE PLANING ON RACING THE CAR....they just don't have the ***** for that kinda driving. If you are just gonna daily drive and give it some gas in the turns every now and then, I would highly recommend these coilovers.
I can't comment on the durability factor, I've only had mine for like 4 months now. But I can say this...they coilovers are very well constructed. I was actually shocked at just how good they were outta the box. I knew I was taking the cheap way out and was pleasantly surprised with my purchase.
Only downside....they have purple accents and purple camber plates...kinda gay IMO, but $100 bux cheaper than K-sports which are actually the exact same product just orange.
Thats just my $0.02....I was in your same position but I knew I wasn't going to actually race my RSX so I didn't pay for "overkill" on suspension, and my setup suits my needs perfectly.
Good luck on the selection process!
I can't comment on the durability factor, I've only had mine for like 4 months now. But I can say this...they coilovers are very well constructed. I was actually shocked at just how good they were outta the box. I knew I was taking the cheap way out and was pleasantly surprised with my purchase.
Only downside....they have purple accents and purple camber plates...kinda gay IMO, but $100 bux cheaper than K-sports which are actually the exact same product just orange.
Thats just my $0.02....I was in your same position but I knew I wasn't going to actually race my RSX so I didn't pay for "overkill" on suspension, and my setup suits my needs perfectly.
Good luck on the selection process!
I am super happy with my Konis on my EP3. I run them full soft for my everyday driving and then stiffen them up on the weekends and such. They ride pretty well while on full soft. Not anything luxurious but still not bad.
Check out this site. They are a local company where I live and they have amazing customer service and will usually work with the prices to get you a really good deal.
The K sport coilovers they can get a REALLY good price on. They run them on their track turbo M3. 36 adjustable dampening and rebound and they include the pillowball mounts. And I have heard nothing but good things about them.
Check out this site. They are a local company where I live and they have amazing customer service and will usually work with the prices to get you a really good deal.
The K sport coilovers they can get a REALLY good price on. They run them on their track turbo M3. 36 adjustable dampening and rebound and they include the pillowball mounts. And I have heard nothing but good things about them.
No you can't put an older model civic suspension on the EP3. The design has changed!
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Mustclime's opinion will more than likely be Koni/GC combo because that's probably the best combo out there. He'll also say keep the car either stock ride height or 1" drop MAX! Him and i have been talking suspension setups for a while and that's the conclusion we've came up with.
Off the shelf coilovers are junk unless you get into the top shelf stuff, like $2500+ Setups.
Off the shelf coilovers are junk unless you get into the top shelf stuff, like $2500+ Setups.
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