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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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need help with oil pump upgrade. i have broke 2 pumps now on dyno if i boost over 30psi. i have a gsr with b16 crank, turning 9500, any advice would be great!
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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What kind of pulley are you running?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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rotating assembly balanced? what kind of crank pulley do you have on there?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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type r stock pully. crank and rods balanced.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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was the block line bored?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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erl said they did. so i hope so. its been in car for 2 months, it made 702 whp took it to track 3 times, i wanted to see what engine would do so we tuned it more and we made 1 pass at 813 then it broke on next pass. put in new pump made 843 3 times then broke again?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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sounds like a balancing issue to me. or the pulley isnt doing its job.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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use a damper.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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I broke a ton of oil pumps with the fluidampr pulley. I switched over to the ATI, and haven't broken once since.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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what is the ATI?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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i heard of alot of people having prods with fluid dampr, i've built alot of honda motors but this is my first b18 long rod set up. so i didnt no if that was the prob.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 061000rr
what is the ATI?
ATI Super Damper

http://www.atiracing.com/products/da...s/damhonda.htm
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Old May 18, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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put a damper on it

ATI Race Damper
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Old May 18, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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do you run the race steel or the race alum?
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Old May 18, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 061000rr
do you run the race steel or the race alum?


use the steel -- high horsepower turbocharged b series engines -- part # 918471
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Old May 18, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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alright, thanks for the help
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Old May 19, 2009 | 06:00 AM
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Making that much power, if your reffering that your type r pulley is the wondefull oil pump breaking Ctr pulley. Listen to Jake and James. Get the race version not the street one. And every 2 yrs, send it in to get new balance rings. Just got my new rings back, 1 1/2 week turnaround. ATI
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Old May 19, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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How heavy is your flyweel?

did you get the flywee and clutch and crank and crank pulley balanced at machine shop all together??
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Old May 19, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Innes
use the steel -- high horsepower turbocharged b series engines -- part # 918471
do you have one for an H series?
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Old May 19, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Have you checked the clearances once the pump is installed? This might tell you if the line hone is the issue or/and crank harmonics.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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I had the same problem and then installed a fluidmpr and broke another one, finally I assumed it was because I was running a cheap clutch. Changed it and never broke one again even running a stock b18b pulley.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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Def need a pulley, get a ATI. Most boosted guys on the Drag Forums uses it with great success, including me.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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so at what power level would you say it's a necessity? i've always used stock.

Im a late comer and just now making it to the 550+ range
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Old May 20, 2009 | 12:47 AM
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^^^I would not worry so much about the amount of power but the amount of boost.
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Old May 20, 2009 | 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 061000rr
i heard of alot of people having prods with fluid dampr, i've built alot of honda motors but this is my first b18 long rod set up. so i didnt no if that was the prob.
Hmm. I have been running one for a couple years with no issues as many others have. Either way, I would get one for sure and also re-evaluate what clutch you are using.
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