should i remove my front sway bar?
I have a 91 crx Hf that i autoX in SM FWD (stock b16a). I am thinking about taking off my stock front sway bar. i have the ST bar in the back, 350 springs up front and 450 in the rear. The reasons i want to take it off are; weight reduction, hoping to get on the gas sooner (no LSD) and to help the car rotate. I was all set to do this until i read somewhere that someone was saying if you can lift a rear tire you need more front spring rate. I don't know why lifting a rear tire is bad because i beleive some of the EP guy claim to run most of the course on three wheels. Just trying to get some thoughts
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Unfortunately, the best answer that you're probably going to get is, 'do whatever works best for your driving style'. Yes, you save weight, and w/o the anti-sway bar, the front end will lean quite a bit more, but you can compensate that by upping your spring rate w/o sacrificing as much vehicle weight. The second best answer will be, 'try it out, and see how it feels'. Some guys swear by removing the front anti-sway, others say, it's there for a reason. It all just comes down to what works best for you.
Remember, the more load on a tire, the greater the grip capacity (oversimplified, but to a degree, accurate). Along that train of thought, with out the anti-sway bar in front, your car will load up the outside tire more, and essentially give you more grip and better turn in. Sometimes, however, you can have too much grip and an oversteering, twitchy car. It's all about finding the right balance.
I personally installed a rear anti-sway bar in my car (95 Civic EX Coupe, didn't come with one), and found my old shock settings made it tail happy, and have actually had to induce a bit of front end stiffness via spring rates and shock settings to counteract the loose rear end. The ultimate result? A stable car that rotates very well, and very predicably. If I removed my front bar, I'd lose some of that stability, and have to increase my front spring rates even more. But I'd also lose some of that inside tire load transfer that a anti-sway provides that springs alone cannot.
So, my personal opinion? Autocrossing is relatively cheap, and you get quite a few runs in a day. Try disconnecting your front anti-sway bar for a run and see how it feels. You might like it, you might hate it, you might realize it works, but you need to adjust something else to maintain stability. It's all going to be up to you in the long run, however.
Hope this helps.
Remember, the more load on a tire, the greater the grip capacity (oversimplified, but to a degree, accurate). Along that train of thought, with out the anti-sway bar in front, your car will load up the outside tire more, and essentially give you more grip and better turn in. Sometimes, however, you can have too much grip and an oversteering, twitchy car. It's all about finding the right balance.
I personally installed a rear anti-sway bar in my car (95 Civic EX Coupe, didn't come with one), and found my old shock settings made it tail happy, and have actually had to induce a bit of front end stiffness via spring rates and shock settings to counteract the loose rear end. The ultimate result? A stable car that rotates very well, and very predicably. If I removed my front bar, I'd lose some of that stability, and have to increase my front spring rates even more. But I'd also lose some of that inside tire load transfer that a anti-sway provides that springs alone cannot.
So, my personal opinion? Autocrossing is relatively cheap, and you get quite a few runs in a day. Try disconnecting your front anti-sway bar for a run and see how it feels. You might like it, you might hate it, you might realize it works, but you need to adjust something else to maintain stability. It's all going to be up to you in the long run, however.
Hope this helps.
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