26" slicks on stock trans
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So guys ive been tossing around the idea of going to a 26" slick up from my 25"s. I plan to be making 500-550whp this year. I have a b16 trans and a gsr trans to pick from. Just wondering if you guys think ill grenade trannys with this set up or not.
Ive been on the same trans for 3 years with only a couple broken axles so im thinking the extra inch of tire wont be a huge difference but again it should be a lot more grip.
Seeing what kind of experiences you guys have with this set up. Thanks!!
Ive been on the same trans for 3 years with only a couple broken axles so im thinking the extra inch of tire wont be a huge difference but again it should be a lot more grip.
Seeing what kind of experiences you guys have with this set up. Thanks!!
26" tires have broken everything in my car. I have spent over $10,000 in parts to try and keep it together since I went with 26". i would work on making what you have work before you go that big. 25" should be just fine at the power you are talking about.
This whole 26" tire setup is blown way out of proportion. Just because outlaw type cars are using 26s, doesnt mean everyone should bump up to the same tire. The most proven setup in the class is the 24.5/25" tire. Unless you have plans on major modications on gearing to run a 26" tire and making over 900hp, I dont think its a good idea to bump up to that tire size.
Bigger tire isnt for the average racer. Its just overkill for what most people are making. Just because its the most talked about tire size right now doesnt mean its the proper size to use.
Bigger tire isnt for the average racer. Its just overkill for what most people are making. Just because its the most talked about tire size right now doesnt mean its the proper size to use.
i think the key to making 26" tires "work"(read still borrowed time) with a stock trans would be getting the weight of the car down, if you have to be the sfwd 2500lbs then good luck. but if you can live with a 2000lb and under car it might work for you.
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Well im not just doing this for the hype by any means. With the b16 trans with a 26" tire i should be just over 140 mph at 9000rpms, on the gearing calcs i know tire growth and everything else add in but its putting me in the area of where i want to be. Also im not running any boost by gear or any thing so i was thinking the extra tire would help aid the extra power i would be putting down this upcoming season.
Also here come the laughs but im still running stock axles so i would think that they would be the weak link to let go instead of the trans, i know either can go at any time but still.
edit: havent had my car on scales but im thinkin its around 24-2500 with me in it.
Also here come the laughs but im still running stock axles so i would think that they would be the weak link to let go instead of the trans, i know either can go at any time but still.
edit: havent had my car on scales but im thinkin its around 24-2500 with me in it.
i say stick with the small tire. if you want to go run an event, most likely you wont be able to because of your tire size, or you will be outclassed by the people who really need to use them.
for what its worth, Felix went 9.24 (i think ) on 24.5 inch tires.
for what its worth, Felix went 9.24 (i think ) on 24.5 inch tires.
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You might want to try 8.5" wide 26's rather then 10's. Keep the pressure on the
high side, add a Tilton flow control valve. Other then that getting the gears heat
treated would help alot.
Steve
high side, add a Tilton flow control valve. Other then that getting the gears heat
treated would help alot.
Steve
a 26' tire will just break your stock axels faster & most likley at launch. then your gunna buy some better axels ( cause your tired of changing them so much)to handle the traction then thats when it starts getting expensive. now everytime u break its gunna be in the trans. just make shure u got around 500$ handy to buy trans parts. or even more. everytime.
just remember your shooting for the power range where things start to break more often. but i would deff say anything under 650whp dont touch the 26's.
2 much tire for that power. 25's all day or 24.5 u can gut 1.6s all day with that.
aslo run 4th out a little longer wont hurt the car. 9000rpm is stock rpm. your drag racing hold it out .i held my gsr trans with 4th with MH 25's throught the traps at 149mph but dont remember the rpm.(anyone know the math on that?)
just remember your shooting for the power range where things start to break more often. but i would deff say anything under 650whp dont touch the 26's.
2 much tire for that power. 25's all day or 24.5 u can gut 1.6s all day with that.
aslo run 4th out a little longer wont hurt the car. 9000rpm is stock rpm. your drag racing hold it out .i held my gsr trans with 4th with MH 25's throught the traps at 149mph but dont remember the rpm.(anyone know the math on that?)
Last edited by ALL IMPORT; May 11, 2009 at 06:56 AM.
Drag Radials are harder on parts than slicks, you dont get the cushion from the soft sidewall that slicks have. The only upside I can see is you wont hook up from the launch like you would with the 26" slicks so that should help preserve some drivetrain parts. I will be running the 235/60/15's this year too and they have me worried, I think a PPG or MFactory syncro set will be in my future.
Drag Radials are harder on parts than slicks, you dont get the cushion from the soft sidewall that slicks have. The only upside I can see is you wont hook up from the launch like you would with the 26" slicks so that should help preserve some drivetrain parts. I will be running the 235/60/15's this year too and they have me worried, I think a PPG or MFactory syncro set will be in my future.
** EDIT ** I know about boost by gear but id like to run over 12-14 psi in 2nd gear
Most people here don't need 26" tire , And yes you can go faster because you can put the power down much sooner . The 24.5 is so much better on parts , It is only a matter of dilling it in . I went 9.25 @ atco in the winter I know my car will go low teens at 2500 pounds. Some of you here just need to work on it .
I too am in need of some 2nd gear help, along with 3rd and 4th...lol
I run a 26X8.5X13 on my 2000 civic SI. On OEM axles. (broken driver side) 3 times.. **out of over 50 passes.
making over 600 car 1.6's all day long.
I have broken the axles at my fault.. ( testing ) tires psi down to low is the cause for 2 of them.. Hooking up real nice is the cause for one of the breaks.
Car is 2700 lbs . and has trapped in 140's with a b16a gear set Same tranny for 3 years. Just added a tilton.. No control valve.
Just wanted to add my findings.. Hope it helps.
making over 600 car 1.6's all day long.
I have broken the axles at my fault.. ( testing ) tires psi down to low is the cause for 2 of them.. Hooking up real nice is the cause for one of the breaks.
Car is 2700 lbs . and has trapped in 140's with a b16a gear set Same tranny for 3 years. Just added a tilton.. No control valve.
Just wanted to add my findings.. Hope it helps.
Last edited by havok hybrid; May 11, 2009 at 03:57 PM.
I have a set of 26x8 Hoosiers with very few runs on them in the for sale thread if anyone is interested in trying them before buying a brand spankin new set.
Funny, I was just staring at a set of these in my friends garage. I am probably getting a Callos Front but I never plan on running anything bigger that 25" slicks, and I think those 235/60/15's will be small under that front end and my friend said if I can fit the 275's I can use them. I would think a custom wheel with a spacer to fit the 275's under a Honda w/o issues would be needed, remember you have to be able to get a good amount of turn radius for a street car or your just asking for an accident.
I too am in need of some 2nd gear help, along with 3rd and 4th...lol
I too am in need of some 2nd gear help, along with 3rd and 4th...lol
Thanks for the input havoc. So you drive your car on the street with those slicks?
ET Streets are not drag radials. They are buas ply tires just like slicks. They do make ET Street radials, which seem to confuse alot of people. And slicks arfe harder on the drivetrain. They simply get more tracion and put more load on the drivetrain. I used to race the Power Street drag radial class back when we had to run radials and I did brake alot of axles(until i met Gator Glen), but I have broken alot more stuff with slicks.
And don't think for a minute that the MH 26x8.5x13 will be easier on parts. That is the tire I am talking about that i use.
And don't think for a minute that the MH 26x8.5x13 will be easier on parts. That is the tire I am talking about that i use.
Haha 96 GSR-T, you and I are on the same page. Im thinking about a callos front end as well. Ive looked everywhere and I haven’t found anyone running the 275s. I think they would fit under that front end I really want to try em, maybe ill be the first one! Im looking at some 15x8s with a 0 offset. If those don’t fit with a spacer Im s.o.l. Do you think they’ll will fit under that front end?
Thanks for the input havoc. So you drive your car on the street with those slicks?
Thanks for the input havoc. So you drive your car on the street with those slicks?
Zero tire rub.. I can make a full U turn. No rub. .. just in case you wanted to know about turning.
I am very happy with my 26inch MH tire. I had 25.5x8.7 They didnt get me in the 140's
Haha 96 GSR-T, you and I are on the same page. Im thinking about a callos front end as well. Ive looked everywhere and I haven’t found anyone running the 275s. I think they would fit under that front end I really want to try em, maybe ill be the first one! Im looking at some 15x8s with a 0 offset. If those don’t fit with a spacer Im s.o.l. Do you think they’ll will fit under that front end?
The callos front end was made around MH 25x8.7. It takes a good bit of work to make a 26 fit. Especially 26x10.




