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Old May 9, 2009 | 07:25 AM
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Hey guys. im not trying to make one of those GM vs. Honda threads but i currently have a 05 tsx, auto for the family, but im currently saving for a c5 z06. I've done some reasearch and i realise the that the z06 is raw power, and lots of it, but the handling isnt that great and looking for alittle of both. and i doubt coilovers would bring the handling up to par with the S2000 handling

with the S2000, the power is good, stock, out the box, but not the greatest and looking for a fun, fast weekend car. the handling with the S2000 is GREAT out the box, having driven a few, but looking for more RELIABLE power. i dont know how reliable turbo is, and i need some input and recommendations on a few different turbo applications which are reliable and make good power.

if i were to choose the S2000, my budget would be $2000 on suspension/chassis stiffening and probably $5000 for turbo application including labour, ehhaust upgrades, fueling upgrades, diff uppgrades, etc.

z06, budget is $0, just the price of the car.
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Old May 9, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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If the price of the turbo kit for the S2000 is only going to be $5000, your better off getting the Z06.
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Old May 9, 2009 | 07:32 AM
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What gave you the impression the Z06 doesn't handle great as well? It might not be as light an tossable as the S2k but a Z06's handling is way up there with the best of them (stock for stock).
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Old May 9, 2009 | 07:35 AM
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The z06 in stock form will out handle any s2000, i dont know where you are getting your info...
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Old May 9, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JDM_EK_JOE
Hey guys. im not trying to make one of those GM vs. Honda threads but i currently have a 05 tsx, auto for the family, but im currently saving for a c5 z06. I've done some reasearch and i realise the that the z06 is raw power, and lots of it, but the handling isnt that great and looking for alittle of both. and i doubt coilovers would bring the handling up to par with the S2000 handling

with the S2000, the power is good, stock, out the box, but not the greatest and looking for a fun, fast weekend car. the handling with the S2000 is GREAT out the box, having driven a few, but looking for more RELIABLE power. i dont know how reliable turbo is, and i need some input and recommendations on a few different turbo applications which are reliable and make good power.

if i were to choose the S2000, my budget would be $2000 on suspension/chassis stiffening and probably $5000 for turbo application including labour, ehhaust upgrades, fueling upgrades, diff uppgrades, etc.

z06, budget is $0, just the price of the car.
weird....my friend was debating the same two cars last month and he ended up going with the S2K, he said the S2K suspension responded a little better with less body roll...
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Old May 9, 2009 | 07:39 AM
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we'll what are reputable turbo builders in the USA? i wouldnt mind making a trip down because Canada dont have good shops to build a good turbo system, and what are the prices because i definitely wouldnt want to cheap out for something to be reliable. i dont want to be getting into building the block so i thought that would be enough $$
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Hey guys. im not trying to make one of those GM vs. Honda threads but i currently have a 05 tsx, auto for the family, but im currently saving for a c5 z06. I've done some reasearch and i realise the that the z06 is raw power, and lots of it, but the handling isnt that great and looking for alittle of both. and i doubt coilovers would bring the handling up to par with the S2000 handling

with the S2000, the power is good, stock, out the box, but not the greatest and looking for a fun, fast weekend car. the handling with the S2000 is GREAT out the box, having driven a few, but looking for more RELIABLE power. i dont know how reliable turbo is, and i need some input and recommendations on a few different turbo applications which are reliable and make good power.

if i were to choose the S2000, my budget would be $2000 on suspension/chassis stiffening and probably $5000 for turbo application including labour, ehhaust upgrades, fueling upgrades, diff uppgrades, etc.

z06, budget is $0, just the price of the car.
Originally Posted by JDM_EK_JOE
we'll what are reputable turbo builders in the USA? i wouldnt mind making a trip down because Canada dont have good shops to build a good turbo system, and what are the prices because i definitely wouldnt want to cheap out for something to be reliable. i dont want to be getting into building the block so i thought that would be enough $$
send your block to golden eagle in cali, have them sleeve and assemble it, then drive the car to CFT......I did it
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Old May 9, 2009 | 07:51 AM
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I love my duece but a Z06 is a Z06!
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Old May 9, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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i dont want to get into building the block. stock blocks good for 600whp+. i just want opinions on quality/reliable parts and what it would cost.
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Old May 9, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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i dont want to get into building the block. stock blocks good for 600whp+. i just want opinions on quality/reliable parts and what it would cost.
z06 with an sts rear mount is good for 700whp at less than 10 psi and waaaaaay more conservative tuning.
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Old May 9, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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If you like tight, nimble cars and don't mind putting in the work to make it powerful, go with the S2000.

If you want a quick, well rounded sports car that you can get in and go, get the Z06.



What turns me off about the Z06 is the interior. The seats are garbage, and the build is cheesy. The S2k is solid, feels like a cockpit.

Also, $5000 is plenty enough for a turbo build, just choose your parts wisely, and don't expect to make 600whp... "reliably" I'd say 350-400 is more realistic.
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Old May 9, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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yes, z06 dash, and radio is very shitty, S2000 is just a sexy car all around...and i plan to do alot of research because i want to makle the right choice. i have never owned a chevy, just strictly Honda, and acura.

i dunno, s2000 is more realistic $$ wise,
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Old May 9, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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or you could just get an nsx
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Old May 10, 2009 | 06:32 AM
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or you could just get an nsx
Judging by the two cars the OP is debating, I think he wants something fast.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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yes, fast but everything could go fast, only a matter of time till something breaks unless its...

a) built from the factory, oem. Less chance of things breaking because built and rigorous testing to handle that power capability..

or

b) built aftermarket, but built right..

this is what im trying to get to..both cars are nice, i think S2K has more potential of being an overall nice rounded, oem platform to transform. handling is great, car looks **** with oem hardtop, dumped, with a nice set of wheels, and oem front lip and thats it. interior is super sexy the way it is.

z06 is nice looking aswell, interior is ****, fast as ****, and handling isnt as great as S2000 and doubt it can ever handle as well as S2000. Im not too sure how good it would be to lower a c5 z06 or how nice it would be, but i just want some genuine input on this.

thanks S forum
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Old May 10, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by JDM_EK_JOE
and handling isnt as great as S2000 and doubt it can ever handle as well as S2000. Im not too sure how good it would be to lower a c5 z06 or how nice it would be,
The first part is just plain wrong; and you can lower a C5 on the stock suspension, but they are already so low I don't see much point. The s2000 is a better-built car with a nicer interior, the Z06 is the better performer (not just faster, it brakes and turns better, too, at least on paper). Pick your preference.

FWIW, a C5 Z06 can touch 11s with a great driver, bone stock. The "405"hp they are advertised as having is more like an estimation than a hard figure.
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BUY THE Z06!!!!!!!!!!! Its a freakin Z06 dude, there shouldnt even be a debate. You could boost the S2000 but it will still be slower, and at the end of the day its a honda. The Z06 is more fun, way faster, sounds better and will get you laid. The C5 z06 is better than any car japan or europe ever made .Its a pefect V8 sports car, and they are getting cheaper and cheaper! By the time im 20 I will be able to afford one easily.

also remember, Turbo S2000 = problems problems problems

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Old May 10, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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^^^^ Where did this troll come from?

Why does everything have to be about power these days? This is a honda forum, not a horsepower forum.

OP, my personal opinion is that the c5's look extremely dated, however it will pull more vagina and move you a little faster. Tough decision. Go test drive both and base your decision on YOUR opinion, no one else's.
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^^^^ Where did this troll come from?

Why does everything have to be about power these days? This is a honda forum, not a horsepower forum.

OP, my personal opinion is that the c5's look extremely dated, however it will pull more vagina and move you a little faster. Tough decision. Go test drive both and base your decision on YOUR opinion, no one else's.
Not a troll, I just love GM V8s. And a little faster? S2000 runs 14.8 stock, C5 z06 does around 11.8, that is A LOT faster. Believe it or not, but when plunking down money on a sports car people generally care about power...
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GM makes a wonderful v8 motor, just not a fan of the cars they put them in. Obviously they arn't selling too well if GM is tanking Not everyone cares about speed, if i had to go buy a brand new sports car for 70k today, it would be a lotus exige s, which would get raped by a c6 no problem. Like i said, this is a honda forum where people don't generally care about speed....if that were the case they would have bought a lsx car for cheaper. God knows i could have 3 camaros for the money i have dumped into my s2k
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blurple - why are you on this website?
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Not a troll, I just love GM V8s. And a little faster? S2000 runs 14.8 stock, C5 z06 does around 11.8, that is A LOT faster. Believe it or not, but when plunking down money on a sports car people generally care about power...



wow we have a gm spokes person in an s2000 forum. Dont get me wrong here I love a corvette but a lot of newer american cars are ****, cheaply made with all the same parts inter-changable. And yes if you want go fast and straight and look good on the outside a vette is the way to go but if you want to go quick, handle nicely while going quick and have a one off interior + the drop top, the way to go would be the S hands down.

I have and S turbo'd and I will smoke a z06 in the twisties.

Also I think Mr.GM here is getting a little crazy on these 1/4 mile times. Maybe a gutted z06 is running that 11 and all the extra weight from the vette was dumped into the s2 and thats why its running a high 14.
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And yes if you want go fast and straight and look good on the outside a vette is the way to go but if you want to go quick, handle nicely while going quick and have a one off interior + the drop top, the way to go would be the S hands down.

I have and S turbo'd and I will smoke a z06 in the twisties.

Also I think Mr.GM here is getting a little crazy on these 1/4 mile times. Maybe a gutted z06 is running that 11 and all the extra weight from the vette was dumped into the s2 and thats why its running a high 14.
Lay off the fanboy sauce.

A Z06 corvette will beat an s2000 around a road course 9 times out of 10. They may do it the "old fashioned" way, with lots of tire, a wide stance, and super-stiff suspension, but regardless the car still handles.

Also, unless you put Gucci leather in your car, an S2000 does not have a "one off interior," though it is better put together than in a corvette.

Saying you can "smoke" something "in the twistys" makes you sound like a ricer.

He's also correct on the Z06 1/4 mile time. The vast majority of drivers will pull mid 12's, but a few have done high 11's in a stock car (Ranger did it with the stock tires, I beleive). Just like most s2000 drivers will run mid 14's, even if the car is capable of running a 13-something.
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Lay off the fanboy sauce.

A Z06 corvette will beat an s2000 around a road course 9 times out of 10. They may do it the "old fashioned" way, with lots of tire, a wide stance, and super-stiff suspension, but regardless the car still handles.

Also, unless you put Gucci leather in your car, an S2000 does not have a "one off interior," though it is better put together than in a corvette.

Saying you can "smoke" something "in the twistys" makes you sound like a ricer.

He's also correct on the Z06 1/4 mile time. The vast majority of drivers will pull mid 12's, but a few have done high 11's in a stock car (Ranger did it with the stock tires, I beleive). Just like most s2000 drivers will run mid 14's, even if the car is capable of running a 13-something.
I didnt mean a one off interior but meant that sitting in a vette is basically the same a sitting in a silverado. Also a couple of my buddies have vettes and one is a zo6 and in the turns "twistys" I pull away but going straight the z06 obviously pulls harder
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Originally Posted by Wandaniers
I didnt mean a one off interior but meant that sitting in a vette is basically the same a sitting in a silverado. Also a couple of my buddies have vettes and one is a zo6 and in the turns "twistys" I pull away but going straight the z06 obviously pulls harder
Well, you are a better driver than your buddy, plus Vettes are not easy cars to drive fast by any means. I get what you are saying about the interior, but that's the tradeoff you make when purchasing a $30k car that performs within a hair's breath of a F430.
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