Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

b16a2 next step for more power?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 5, 2009 | 04:55 PM
  #1  
ilinan87's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Default b16a2 next step for more power?

I have a 99 civic si

b16a2 w/

Greddy full exhaust

DC 4-1 header

aem cold air intake

9lb. chromoly flywheel

exedy stage 1 clutch



I want to make more power out of my motor, but not spend a ton of money in a turbo or anything like that

what would be a good next step?

i was thinking a skunk2 manifold with a bigger throttle body?

what do you guys think?

oh motor has 115k
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 05:12 PM
  #2  
sscivicsi's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
From: tonganoxie, kansas, usa
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

i would do a 4.7 final drive for a round 600 you could have a noticeable difference in power. If you do the bigger t/b and s/2 intake you will not totally beniffit from it unless it is tuned. Which means jumper harness and a socketed ecu (unless thats already done) then there is dyno time. Thats just my 2 cents though!
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 05:34 PM
  #3  
Arthas's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,495
Likes: 3
From: Pomona, CA
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

P28
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 06:34 PM
  #4  
laocivic's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,323
Likes: 0
From: spartanburg, sc
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

spray....cheap and easy.
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 06:39 PM
  #5  
Laz's EP's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 652
Likes: 0
From: Miami, Fl, USA
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

What power your making now?
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 07:01 PM
  #6  
roadsqueegy95's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,069
Likes: 1
From: Bedford,PA
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

cams and spray!
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 08:40 PM
  #7  
ilinan87's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

I'd prefer to not spray, my motor won't last long. Besides it's a daily driver, right now I'm not sure how much power I'm putting down, but I'm sure it's close to stocks numbers
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 08:43 PM
  #8  
leroyb's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 385
Likes: 0
From: salinas, ca, usa
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

obd1 conversion on chipped p28
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 09:08 PM
  #9  
ketchup!'s Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,319
Likes: 0
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

this is what you do: 3" itr intake, itr tb and im. either sk2 cams or itr cams. chipped p28 with obd1 conversion. tune with hondata or neptune. have fun!
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 09:32 PM
  #10  
blacc_ej1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 236
Likes: 0
From: Roseville, CA
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

B20 block :D
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 09:40 PM
  #11  
1LowSol's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 603
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

Just start saving money and get a turbo kit. Best bang for your buckkkk.
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 09:43 PM
  #12  
1LowSol's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 603
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

Originally Posted by ketchup!
this is what you do: 3" itr intake, itr tb and im. either sk2 cams or itr cams. chipped p28 with obd1 conversion. tune with hondata or neptune. have fun!
Hondata And Neptune Both suck, Look into eCtune. Best Software out there for OBD1 Tunning.
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 09:45 PM
  #13  
SOHC_civic_si's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 554
Likes: 0
From: Edmonton, AB, CA
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

Originally Posted by 1LowSol
Just start saving money and get a turbo kit. Best bang for your buckkkk.
First learn some proper grammar, then we'll talk. I understood what he meant, no problems. There must me something wrong with you.
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 09:50 PM
  #14  
1LowSol's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 603
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

Originally Posted by SOHC_civic_si
First learn some proper grammar, then we'll talk. I understood what he meant, no problems. There must me something wrong with you.
WOW, I understood what he said as well. I was just telling him NOT to waste his time with the small stuff and put back some money and purchase a turbo kit, But hey Thanks for your input anyways buddy! Even tho No one gives two *****.
Reply
Old May 5, 2009 | 10:03 PM
  #15  
en00be's Avatar
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,094
Likes: 0
From: Northwest Indiana
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

throw it away and buy a jdm b16a....im drunk
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 12:22 AM
  #16  
honda pride's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
From: el lie aka long island, ny, usa
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

Type r cams. Skunk 2 valves, springs and retainers. Port polish. Itr intake mani chip stock ecu
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 01:41 AM
  #17  
beastsohc's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
From: some where in da ocean
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

Originally Posted by 1LowSol
Hondata And Neptune Both suck, Look into eCtune. Best Software out there for OBD1 Tunning.
not really...........
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 02:16 AM
  #18  
MilanoCpe's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 368
Likes: 0
From: Orange County, ca, united states
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

blox intake manifold, sk2 tuner cams, sk2 valves, springs and retainers, lightweight pulleys, cam gears, chip your ecu and get it tuned. Wha Bam! that should be all under $1700
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 02:17 AM
  #19  
MilanoCpe's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 368
Likes: 0
From: Orange County, ca, united states
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

o yah forgot to add. Run a tad big bigger throttle body. like a 68 or sumthing.
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 06:50 AM
  #20  
trustdestruction's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,134
Likes: 1
From: FL
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

Originally Posted by SOHC_civic_si
First learn some proper grammar, then we'll talk. I understood what he meant, no problems. There must me something wrong with you.
He purposely put kkkkk on the end of buck and you're calling him out?

Meanwhile, in your horrible failure of an attempt to be an e-thug, you use the wrong word in your sentence.
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 08:49 AM
  #21  
B16AGUY's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 355
Likes: 1
From: Montreal, QC, Canada
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

Originally Posted by MilanoCpe
blox intake manifold, sk2 tuner cams, sk2 valves, springs and retainers, lightweight pulleys, cam gears, chip your ecu and get it tuned. Wha Bam! that should be all under $1700
Once the above is done and tuned on say a p28 with hondata how much much would you all ESTIMATE he could safely be putting to the ground?
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 08:52 AM
  #22  
DAMotorsports's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 134
Likes: 0
From: SOCAL
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

what do you want to do with the car is the first question to answer.
then you have to play with in the smog rules of CA. i have a close set up to yours and i am putting 160 at the hub (Church's in SO CAL) on the stock ECU. with a tune i would be about 170 per Shawn.

Ii have part to get very close to 200 at the hub and meet CAL smog. but i would have to change the ECU when i test the car.

if you have to get a ECU, just get an AEM, plugged for the car and it is about the same pierce as a hondata with a s300.

Last edited by DAMotorsports; May 6, 2009 at 09:16 AM.
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 09:00 AM
  #23  
revhardallday's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

i have 99 jdm itr cams for sale if your intrested. (pm)
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 10:05 AM
  #24  
818SpoonITR's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 12,557
Likes: 0
From: City of Six Flags, CA
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

Originally Posted by ketchup!
this is what you do: 3" itr intake, itr tb and im. either sk2 cams or itr cams. chipped p28 with obd1 conversion. tune with hondata or neptune. have fun!
Everyone reads from import tuner a bit too much now a days....

It would be a bit hard to get more power without having the proper funds. The best way to get some easy power would be building your head. Skunk2 is your best option. Start with some tuner series stage 2 cams & the pro series valvetrain(flat valves, retainers, dual valve springs). Upgrade the intake manifold, get a nice 68mm TB, upgrade your fuel system by replacing the fuel rail & injectors. BDL rails usually run for $120 & some RC injectors can run up to $200.
Now header selection....
You can go from DTR to Hytech or RMF to Bisimoto. These are high priced headers that you will definitely notice the outcome. Even getting them used but still in excellent condition would be worth coming up on these. You can use the exedy kit but look into replacing the disc with a ACT clutch disc since exedy doesn't sell the disc separate.
Hope this helps you a bit.
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 10:12 AM
  #25  
818SpoonITR's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 12,557
Likes: 0
From: City of Six Flags, CA
Default Re: b16a2 next step for more power?

Originally Posted by sscivicsi
i would do a 4.7 final drive for a round 600 you could have a noticeable difference in power. If you do the bigger t/b and s/2 intake you will not totally beniffit from it unless it is tuned. Which means jumper harness and a socketed ecu (unless thats already done) then there is dyno time. Thats just my 2 cents though!
There really is nothing to do in Kansas is there? Probably doing more research would help you.
Just my 2 cents!
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:30 PM.