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Old May 3, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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Car:DA 91 teg b18a1
Was cruising when my motor shut off on freeway..pulled to the e lane..poped the hood and timing belt is snapped...towed home opened it up and the timing belt had been sanded down smooth by valve cover..and so have the cam gears just the tips..some deep fat scratches on the cover intake side cam gear cover..put it back together started it up and still hear a slight grind like the timing belt is rubbing...pretty much just wanting to know if this has happened to anyone before and or wat I can do to fix it..haven't driven it yet since I don't wanna risk snappin another belt

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Old May 4, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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This sounds far more serious than the timing belt rubbing. You might have some internal damage.
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Old May 4, 2009 | 07:08 AM
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how many miles? did u check the timing tensioner?
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Old May 4, 2009 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ahcapone
This sounds far more serious than the timing belt rubbing. You might have some internal damage.
he put a new belt.... no knock from what he say only a rubbing noise
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Old May 4, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ahcapone
This sounds far more serious than the timing belt rubbing. You might have some internal damage.
Timing belt snapped so 1st thing I did was check the head for messed up valves and checked for flatness inside is fine just the valve cover rubbing cam gears and belt
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Old May 4, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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If your lucky you dont have bent exaust valves but thats if your lucky!
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Old May 4, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by s2kmugenpower
how many miles? did u check the timing tensioner?
6months prior to it snappin my water pump was going out so ibought new t belt new tensioner and water pump..I drive less than 80 miles a month so it was fairly new..
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Old May 4, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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If your lucky you dont have bent exaust valves but thats if your lucky!
I was lucky... no bent/damaged valves.head not warped either...just cams gear tips sanded down and snapped belt and the fact that I was stranded on the 805 on da way home at 9pm..
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Old May 4, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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Ok well I got to work on my car a bit today...I started it up again just to see wat might be the cause...I noticed that if I put a small amount of pressure on the valve cover it would rub harder and u can see the metal dust that came off the cams...I pulled up on the cover and it kinda went away..but came back..I don't kno if this might have to do with not having the cover on..I have the bottom cover with the timing mark but not the one that covers the cams..could this be the problem?
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Old May 4, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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The valvecover does sit close, but never THAT close. There has to be somethng else wrong here. Some pics would be great!
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Old May 4, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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vc gasket maybe?
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Old May 5, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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cant be vc gasket it shouldnt touch....(i think) so u saying the gears r touchin the vc??or belt is rubbing vc?
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Old May 5, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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Did your valvecover get bent when you had it off at any point??
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Old May 9, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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either theres no vc gasket or you have the wrong cam gears or your cams are bent but i cant see how that can happen.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 03:11 AM
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Did you put the washer back on the crank bolt that holds the belt in place?
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Old May 10, 2009 | 05:03 AM
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how bou you buy my ls cam gears and my ls valve cover and see if thatll work holllaaaaa
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Old May 13, 2009 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by s2kmugenpower
cant be vc gasket it shouldnt touch....(i think) so u saying the gears r touchin the vc??or belt is rubbing vc?
Both...the valve cover rubs belt and got sanded down and caused a snapped belt and wen I looked to see y it snapped I saw the vc and it had some deep scratches on it from the cam gears...cam gear teath are sanded round at the end from grinding the vc..only the intake camgear tho
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Old May 13, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by berb_15
Did your valvecover get bent when you had it off at any point??
Vc has not been bent dropped hit so its straight..
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Old May 13, 2009 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by wunfstgsr
either theres no vc gasket or you have the wrong cam gears or your cams are bent but i cant see how that can happen.
Vc gasket is there..stock gears and cams are straight..ima get a new vc gasket since the last one I bought was from autozone then this sh!+ happened..and they have given me crappy parts before so yea
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Old May 13, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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Did you put the washer back on the crank bolt that holds the belt in place?
Yea made sure of that...done timing belts many times and was tired once and forgot to put it in and had to take everything apart and put it on so now I make sure all parts are on b4 I start putting stuff back together
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Old May 14, 2009 | 08:04 AM
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maybe your cam is warped and or gear mie as well just change both to see
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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by s2kmugenpower
maybe your cam is warped and or gear mie as well just change both to see
ima change my vc gasket and if that don't work Ima pick up a new long block for 200 and just drop in the new head ans sell what ever I don't need
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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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try starting the car with the timing belt cover off...and see if its actually touching anything first...
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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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yeah u can try that to see it it wobbles
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Old May 14, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mouab18c1
try starting the car with the timing belt cover off...and see if its actually touching anything first...
I took off the bottom timing belt cover I don't have the middle one...lifted the car and started it and used a chalk string like the construction workers use to try and see if it wobbled but no wobble was detected..
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