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Old May 3, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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heres the deal, im planing on dropping in a b16a in my crx, now its mostly a dd, but i want a little more power, i dont need tons like 500 or anything crazy and i wanna stay all motor, i was thinking cams, valvetrain,steel hg, and pistons....just put a lil more power on this motor for some fun but at the same time have it a good street set up. i was thinking ctr pistons and valve train but read on it and it sounded insane. so im looking for adivce on a good street setup on pistons and cams hg and arp head bolts......i was leaning twards bc or skunk2 valvetrain and cams and clueless on pistons also a good hg....so any adivce would be great on these parts. thanks guys

ive been researching for a couple weeks now and have come up with nothing aside from the ctr stuff, so b4 anyone says anything, did that already
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Old May 3, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Old May 4, 2009 | 12:15 AM
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so what exactly are you asking? ctr pistons are fine in a b16 as a daily driver, you just have to get it tuned. you will have all of the compression that you need with those pistons, plus a new hone, new rings, new bearings, etc. an oem headgasket would work perfectly with this. if you want to steer away from using ctr pistons, you could always use a two layer headgasket, decent cams, (i always used skunk2 stage 1's on my b16), a good header, a good intake/intake manifold, and hondata. from what it sounds like, you would be happy with type-r cams, a two layer headgasket, a decent header, and a tune. hope that helped.
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Old May 4, 2009 | 03:25 AM
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very easy way is get a gsr block throw on the pistons from the curent b16 if there in decent shape worthe investing in a bigger block trq is fun in a rex :-p

comp. would be some where at 11 something to 1

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Old May 4, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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Try Omni 200whp B16 DVD.
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Old May 4, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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thanks and yea hatch that did to be honest the last part about what your said would work perfectly, though with those type R cams id obviously need the rest of the valvetrain, but would i have to alter anything else? and i hear good things about s2's i just want to do it right the first time you know? i was also thinking itr mani and tb..would that help? and a buddy said stage one setups i could use the factory ecu but anything higher and id need something like the hondata..thanks again for your help
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Old May 4, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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just go by skunk2 or order the whole head package. springs, retainers, cams, cam gears, etc. as far as using the type-r manifold, i have heard that the stock b16 manifold works well, but i opted to use a type-r. i wanted my power band higher in the rpm range and more peak hp. the valvetrain and cam gears will be the only thing you need to alter.

as far as your "buddy" goes, hes wrong. i mean sure, you can use a factory ecu if you want your motor to run like complete sh*t. if you want the best reliability, best gas mileage, and best power for your motor, get it tuned asap. spend the money and get it right. hell, i had my motor tuned with hondata and three hours on the dyno and all i have are bolt-ons. its essentially a factory motor. you would be surprised at the results you see.
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Old May 5, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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yea thanks again yea figure that would be the best bet lol i just screwed my last b16 crx so i want to redeem myself this time around, and i figure the itr manifold will work a little better with the mods so that will be good, now one last thing, ill need to alter all the fuel system right? fpr ,filter,injectors and pump once the vlavetrains done im assuming...and yea the hondata ive been reading up on, doesnt sound like i need the s300.had a feeling my buddy wasnt right on that.... well thanks again for your help with this
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Old May 5, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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with your set-up and a b16, don't even bother with any of the fuel system upgrades. please dont waste your money on those things. the ONLY thing that you need is an adjustable fuel pressure regulator for tuning purposes.

replacing the fuel filter is just routine maintenance.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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ok sounds good thanks again for your help your info helped big time
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saw a dyno between b16 IM and itr IM. b16 made more mid-range power than the itr but the itr made more high-end power.

also, i rather upgrade the injectors than the fpr. increasing the fuel pressure is gonna overload the stock injectors. you'll wear them faster. with bigger injectors you can run stock fpr and fuel rail, because you're getting it tune so the tuner will set it at the correct pressure...i've seen many dyno's where they used bigger injectors with stock fpr and fuel rail making 190+hp. only do this if you're running higher CR.

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Originally Posted by hmoobhero
saw a dyno between b16 IM and itr IM. b16 made more mid-range power than the itr but the itr made more high-end power.
that all depends on what cams were in the head. when it comes to intake manifolds and headers you ALMOST cant even talk about them without talking about the cams.
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Old May 7, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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also, i rather upgrade the injectors than the fpr. increasing the fuel pressure is gonna overload the stock injectors. you'll wear them faster.
That's hilarious....
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That's hilarious....
Yeah, it is.

But seriously, if you upgrade to the Bosch ID 1000 or 725 cc injectors then it is possible to see real gains.
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Old May 7, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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I don't know anything about them, do they offer an enhanced spray pattern or something?
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Old May 7, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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I don't know anything about them, do they offer an enhanced spray pattern or something?

Yes, that is exactly it.
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Old May 9, 2009 | 01:45 AM
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haha. wow. 750 or 1000 injectors on a mildly built b16? just stop.
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Old May 9, 2009 | 07:38 AM
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you can easily run injectors of that size on a b16 with a tuning system. If the spray pattern is enhanced, it will make more power.
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haha. wow. 750 or 1000 injectors on a mildly built b16? just stop.
Damn, if you take minute to do a little research you'll see the obvious.

Yea, there is a reason to run those injectors versus every other made. The size is not relevant.

To BS posters that don't know what there commenting about.
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Old May 9, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by racing_reject_001

ive been researching for a couple weeks now and have come up with nothing aside from the ctr stuff, so b4 anyone says anything, did that already
Have you considered just doing close ratio gearing instead with a lightweight flywheel and LSD?

Those mods could arguably be "faster" if not a lot more fun in general.

The Bosch ID injectors are good stuff - great consistency between each injector set (the very short basic story to them) We're using them in a 8psi JRSC setup (ZOmG this is tEh All motaR 4'um).
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mar778 set that guy up like a home entertainment system lololol was waiting for it.
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