help - progressively blowing more smoke when vtec engages
hey guys, just hoping you could give me some insight into what could be happening/wrong
I've owned the car for about a year now and i have noticed that the car has be progressively blowing more and more smoke as vtec engages. there is smoke only when vtec hits and whenever im below the vtec threshold, there are no problems.
what could be wrong? worn rings? or could bad valve seals be the problem?
i just recently had maintenance done on the car after i took it out of winter storage...oil, tranny fluid change, cap/rotor/plugs changed, valve adjustment done and rad flushed.
any insight would be appreciated...the car runs well and still pulls strong...but im getting tired of having to add a quart of oil every couple of weeks
thanks
I've owned the car for about a year now and i have noticed that the car has be progressively blowing more and more smoke as vtec engages. there is smoke only when vtec hits and whenever im below the vtec threshold, there are no problems.
what could be wrong? worn rings? or could bad valve seals be the problem?
i just recently had maintenance done on the car after i took it out of winter storage...oil, tranny fluid change, cap/rotor/plugs changed, valve adjustment done and rad flushed.
any insight would be appreciated...the car runs well and still pulls strong...but im getting tired of having to add a quart of oil every couple of weeks
thanks
what color smoke? its probably rings, valve seals usually cause smoke on startup
get a compression test or better yet leakdown test done
get a compression test or better yet leakdown test done
i was contemplating a rebuild this winter anyways so i was hoping i would be able to get some confirmation with this thread.
well i guess your burning oil, most likely from blown rings then
i would really suggest getting a leakdown test and you'll find out exactly whats wrong
i would really suggest getting a leakdown test and you'll find out exactly whats wrong
i dont think its running rich....im still getting pretty decent gas mileage. also when i did my maintenance this spring, the old plug tips were whitish with weird crust like deposits on them. i thought the car was running a little lean if anything..
Well it's hard to sit here and guess what it could be but our cars are KNOWN for bad seating rings and your symptoms sound a lot like that. Lack of power could be because with all that smoke you've got a fouled 02 sensor which could throw off the ecu and put it in limp mode.
Last edited by 98ITR747; May 1, 2009 at 08:19 AM.
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Well it's hard to sit here and guess what it could be but our cars are KNOWN for bad seating rings and your symptoms sound a lot like that. Lack of power could be because with all that smoke you've got a fouled 02 sensor which could throw off the ecu and put it in limp mode.
A block rebuild isn't that bad to do.
Just get the following even if it doesn't need replacing sicne later on you won't have to fix it
Stone Honing Tool
New Rings
Possibly new pistons if clearances aren't in spec
Rod Bearings
Main Bearings
Thrust Washers
Oil Pump
Water Pump
Just check all the clearances if you do a rebuild. I like to use plastiguage since I don't have a lot of tools to measure etc.
Just get the following even if it doesn't need replacing sicne later on you won't have to fix it
Stone Honing Tool
New Rings
Possibly new pistons if clearances aren't in spec
Rod Bearings
Main Bearings
Thrust Washers
Oil Pump
Water Pump
Just check all the clearances if you do a rebuild. I like to use plastiguage since I don't have a lot of tools to measure etc.
Most you should pay is 950 less better if its shop. New rings, walls, oil pump, bearings, both seals, and polish the crank and put together. Ball park idea
thanks for the input guys...i am most likely going to rebuild it during the winter and the way i look at is if im gonna be spending money to rebuild the block, i might as well spend a little extra and do some head work as well. im looking to make around 210 whp
I'm going to be polite in response to the wrong answers everyone has been giving you. Black smoke is indicative of fuel....NOT oil from bad rings.
Also the extra oil being passed could screw with the emissions system (PCV, and O2 sensors) making it run rich. Just a thought, but I would say it is in fact the rings.
Just had the same problem with mine. Leak down was fine, compression a little low but still in spec. Had valve seals replaced and resurfaced the head while it was off. Problem gone.
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