Im doing a Ls vtec and i just wanted to know a few things.
I have a b18a1 block with a typr r oil pump and b16 water pump, Im putting a 95 b16 head on it. I just wanted to know what timing belt and head studs should I use.
Thanks.

 

Anyone?

 

if your using a b16 waterpump then use a b16 timing belt and you should use b16 headstuds since your using a b16 head

 

WRONG
gsr timing belt.
the gsr block has a taller deck, and so do alll the other b series motors except for the b16a jdm or usdm (a1,a2,a3 ect)
so the b16a timing belts are shorter than the b16b and the b18c motors. basically what an ls vtec is is a gsr with different internals. the blocks are from the same cast.

 

So your saying i can use a Gsr or a type r and a b16b timing belt. No b16a's
And should i just get gsr head studs like u are saying.
Thanks

 

actually you're wrong...read around first before saying...you use the same timing belt as your waterpump..if he has a gsr head then use a gsr waterpump...i know what a ls vtec is...i built a b20vtec before...same thing buddy

 

if it were me I would use the gsr belt...the b18 block is 2mm taller then the b16 block...if you want to double check then you need to count the teeth on your water pump and see if its the same number of teeth as the gsr pump...

I personally have never put that setup together (b16 w pump b18a block) but I've done plenty of ls/vtecs, b20/vtecs, etc, and always used the belt for the w pump I was using

for what it's worth my personal setup is a b18a block, b16 head b18c1 w pump and belt

oh, and definitely want to use b18 head studs...b16's will be too short

 

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I have a 22t water pump, I think that is a Gsr water pump. So i guess ill just use a gsr timing belt.
Thanks guys.

 

ARP headstuds

 

Im going with ls vtec Arp's or Golden eagle's

 

you're right a b16 is shorter than other b series but...

are you sure it's only 2mm?

you do know that is 1/5 of a cm right?

 

You need to use a GSR timing belt.

A lot of information in here is false. All VTEC waterpumps have 22 teeth but a GSR belt is the longest.

B16/GSR Water Pump- GSR Timing Belt
LS Water Pump- LS

You need GSR Head Studs. I suggest ARP

 

Well i just got Golden Eagle's. A few people said they are better.

 

you honestly cant go wrong with arps or GEs.

 

They have a good kit but the head gasket is usually luck. I'd say a good 30 percent of people who use a vtec gasket with their ls vtecs leak oil from the sides.

In build threads that are stickied, all of them mention to use an ls gasket and not a vtec.

LS VTEC with a ls gasket will let your oil passages be free but somewhat block a few passages for coolant.

When you use a vtec gasket, you block I think all or most oil but have coolant flowing through. Golden Eagle said all oil would return to the oil pan with a VTEC gasket but I didn't even crank mine over yet and was building up oil pressure up for my motor and already noticed leaking.


EDIT- Damn, thought you were referring to the headgasket lol. Yeah, both headstuds are good but don't see why GE would be better than ARP. Both are reputable but ARP focuses on fastening a lot. If anything, they're probably almost the exact same

You'd really regret putting a vtec gasket on and having to re-do it like a lot of people including me have had to do

 

wow misinformation there when using the ls gasket it has 2 rivits in the way and also does block 2 different coolant ports. when using the vtec gasket you say it blocks almost all the oil ports thats false the oil ports your saying it blocks are returns the head does not have so it cant block something the head don't have. we get calls all the time from guys that use ls gaskets and are leaking oil we sell them our gasket and problem solved here is proof and why we use the gaskets we do and i find it hard to believe that you say you didn't even crank yours over yet and it was building up oil pressure for your motor and already noticed leaking. how could it build up pressure if you didn't crank it over? if you leaked oil with a vtec gasket you going to leak oil with a ls gasket we have proven that we sell 40 to 50 vtec kits a week with no complaints no problems and have had countless customer's that have used ls gaskets for years try the vtec gaskets and never tern back to the ls gaskets

 

How much are the golden eagle gaskets. I have a b16 head with a 83mm ls block.

 

It sounds convincing but strange how most people have the most luck with ls gaskets. The rivets are easy enough to remove from the ls gasket while still leaving the gasket in working condition.
You guys have a really good package but some of the most advanced build threads say to stick with an LS Gasket. Maybe people experience leaks due to improper installation but who knows. It seems a little weird that nobody really ever suggests not to use an LS Gasket.

I bought your kit and it is nice but all of the end results and builders suggest using the LS more.

 

Damn, Now i just dont know what head gasket to get. Everyone is telling me different things.

 

its funny you say most experince leaks i find that hard to beleave with how many we sell with no complaints i dont know why people started using ls gaskets when i know some of the first guys to ever do them and they all used vtec gaskets i have been using them for around 10 years or so and in the hundreds i have dont i am yet to see one leak. i mean its all in the write up your not blocking anything the head has so how would it leak? we have proven this time and time again even with pro builders like ron bergenholtz that always used ls gaskets before us and now thats all they will use is vtec gaskets

 

I built my LS/VTEC last May. It has 13,000 miles on it. It has no leaks and zero problems.

B18a1 block + 01 ITR head. I used a ITR water pump, oil pump, tensioner and timing belt. I also used an LS head gasket. I did not remove anything from it and used stock OEM Honda ITR head bolts.

A few months ago I was looking over Golden Eagle's website and read their article on the the use of the VTEC headgasket vs a NON-VTEC headgasket. After reading their article it was very informative about the cooling issues and 2 metal tabs. Although my motor runs great and doesn't have any headgasket leaks, I will probably switch to the VTEC headgasket when I replace my valve stem seals because of GE's write up.

 

Im going with a vtec head gasket then. Whats the diff between the ls-vtec head gaskets and the vtec gaskets.

 

Cometic makes an LS/vtec head gasket for any bore size and any thickness. I always use cometic head gaskets with no problems.

 

your one of the lucky ones do a search lots of people have nothing but problems with cometic gaskets