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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:06 AM
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About the 2003 MazdaSpeed Protege compared to the Type R

Drivers of any caliber will be able to enjoy the Protege without fear.
Because of the Mazda's massive grip, mild manners and performance potential from it's turbocharged engine, this car is our new benchmark for production car front-drive performance. That's right, it has knocked the old Acura Integra Type R off the mountain.

Fact is, The MazdaSpeed Protege is probably faster up our favorite mountain road than a Type R, which is the ultimate litmus test for useable speed. We know it's faster through the slalom. At 72 mph, it's the fastest production car we've tested. What's more, it's easily controlled. Find yourself sideways at 70 mph and the torque-sensing limited slip will keep you going whereever you point the front wheels as long as you keep the go pedal planted

Btw they only got a 15.3-second quarter mile at 90 mph
Said car is not about dragging but handling
Car only has 170 hp
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:14 AM
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Interesting review... I will have to go reread my SCC. I must have missed that the first time around.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:15 AM
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Yeah, but if it is turbo, it will be relatively easy and cheaper to get more hp out of that motor.

Said car is not about dragging but handling
Car only has 170 hp
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:17 AM
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Maybe they should put both cars on the track and test them side by side instead of using words like "probably faster".
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:23 AM
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I haven't gotten my new SCC yet. But the Car and Driver review of it makes it sound like it has tons of torque steer.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:23 AM
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Mazda has been trying to "beef-up" the Protege for years. I`ve probably been to 7-8 Protege focus groups. Looks like they are finally on the right track. I`d still be concerned w/ the engines longevity though.

Ryan
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:27 AM
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I'd like to see a real comparison...autocross, or track time from a professional driver. I'm sure that Grassroots will have a pretty honest review of the car.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:28 AM
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Line up the MazdaSpeed Proteges and bring them on - I'm not afraid...
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:29 AM
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Line up the MazdaSpeed Proteges and bring them on - I'm not afraid...
Seriously...
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:54 AM
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A lot of C&D complaints about the torque steer which would probably only get worse with more boost. Otherwise sounds like a decent car though. I'm impressed with the wheel/tire combo:
"7.0-by-17-inch aluminum alloys from RacingHart, wearing Z-rated 215/45 Bridgestone Potenza RE040 tires"
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:58 AM
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Mazda can kiss me Black R's ***!
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 12:03 PM
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Hmmm.. at least Mazda is listening to potential customers/enthusiasts.

Damn you Honda! Bring us the CTR/RSX-R now! It wouldnt hurt if they made a turbo rwd I-4 a-la Silvia.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 12:06 PM
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well its obvious that the Protege is a contender, and I actually dont think the car is bad at all.

However in defense of the R, it is ALL MOTOR, and several years old and ahead of its time. There was no question that one day it would get knocked off the podium as the elite production car out there, but the fact is even though its dated, it can still hang with the best of them, and supposedly, according to SCC, it took a supercharged/turbocharged/whatever Protege to knock it off its pedestal. And until I see a Protege running 12's, Im not scared one bit

for our R
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 12:22 PM
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Funny, that's precisely what they said about the Sentra SE-R Spec V.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 12:42 PM
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Funny, that's precisely what they said about the Sentra SE-R Spec V.
So true...
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 01:52 PM
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yawn
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 02:18 PM
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I will keep my eye out for a new Mazda.........
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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Mazda can kiss me Black R's ***!

Yeah, they can kiss my ***!
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 02:22 PM
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From my experience with SCC, they hype up the latest thing way beyond what it should be. Im still mad about how they conducted their mustang GT vs R test. They found ways to make excuses as to why the R wasnt winning and even changed the track to suit the R better when from the begining there should of been no doubt the Stang would win because of the amount of straights involved.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 02:32 PM
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SCC

To find a good review in there you should just ask Miss Cleo, she'll know more.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 02:34 PM
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SCC

To find a good review in there you should just ask Miss Cleo, she'll know more.
buwahah, and she might even be cheaper than the mag.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 02:35 PM
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Mazda, lol.

Look, look, I'm a SCC editor and I love crack. Yes I loooooove crack.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 02:47 PM
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The Spec V was SUPPOSED to be like that too and that car is ***.......
I think they just like to say that for Mazda so they sell more cars....
Looks the S-er was supposed to be the greatest thing since sliced bread and everyone wanted one, and I have yet to see on run under a 15.5.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 08:30 PM
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If anyone cared to look at R&T's "Best Handling Car" test maybe two months ago they would have read that the current MP5 turned a 72 mph slalom. That's faster than any FWD car. Now that SCC has repeated this feat I heartily welcome the Mazda.
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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 08:39 PM
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That's right, it has knocked the old Acura Integra Type R off the mountain.
Look man..just CAN'T happen with out VTEC..
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