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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Default Piston to valve measurement, with headgasket or not?

I remember hearing that when checking the valve to piston clearance it is best done without a headgasket. You can get whatever thickness gasket that will put your setup within spec.

Is this a valid statement? What are the benefits of checking without using a hg?
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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Default Re: Piston to valve measurement, with headgasket or not?

You run a stock head gasket, measure the clearance and then decide if you need a thicker/thinner gasket.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Piston to valve measurement, with headgasket or not?

you could do it either way. if you do it without the gasket and you have say .050" clearance and you are going to run a .030" gasket then you will have .080" which would be sufficient with a steel rod.

the benefit of checking it without the gasket would be not tightening the head to the block and then taking it back off with your new gasket.

and i wouldnt base your HG thickness on piston to valve. set your quench at what you want and if your PtoV is too tight, i would flycut the piston.
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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Default Re: Piston to valve measurement, with headgasket or not?

Originally Posted by lohatch
you could do it either way. if you do it without the gasket and you have say .050" clearance and you are going to run a .030" gasket then you will have .080" which would be sufficient with a steel rod.

the benefit of checking it without the gasket would be not tightening the head to the block and then taking it back off with your new gasket.

and i wouldnt base your HG thickness on piston to valve. set your quench at what you want and if your PtoV is too tight, i would flycut the piston.
Are you sure this is correct, shoudnt it be

clearance without gasket + (gasket thickness*cosA)
where A is the valve angle from the vertical (perpendicular to the block)
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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Default Re: Piston to valve measurement, with headgasket or not?

Originally Posted by lohatch
you could do it either way. if you do it without the gasket and you have say .050" clearance and you are going to run a .030" gasket then you will have .080" which would be sufficient with a steel rod.

the benefit of checking it without the gasket would be not tightening the head to the block and then taking it back off with your new gasket.

and i wouldnt base your HG thickness on piston to valve. set your quench at what you want and if your PtoV is too tight, i would flycut the piston.
Thanks for the reply and I understand all of that, I was just wondering if there was some "other" reason.
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