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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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hello all,


im working on my friends 94 ex and it has a d15b in it i dont know d series all that much but i know thats not what came in it. im pretty sure its a jdm motor cause there is no letters or numbers after the d15b. it started throwing a code so she had me check it out its a code 22, vtec pressure switch.
and that was last night so i go to check it today and clean the screen or check the wires and everything like that and the vtec solenoid itself isnt there where it is suppose to be is a plate blocking off where its suppose to be yet the plugs for it coming off the harness are there


so my question is...
1. is it possible that it is a non vtec motor and the previous own not change the computer
2. did the previous owner take the solenoid out or switch heads or something
3. or am i just going crazy? haha


thanks,

smokecdcxx

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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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a picture would help...
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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take a pic of the motor. More than likely he didnt swap out the ecu and it is a non-vtec motor
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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I doubt that a nonvtec head would be cast with a port for a vtec solenoid...take a pic of the plate and then take a pic of the headstamp so we know what casting it is
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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UHHH lol that is the embedded code use the direct link or the img code
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/q...x/IMG00061.jpg

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/q...x/IMG00058.jpg

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/q...x/IMG00062.jpg

That is weird. take a pic of the valve cover
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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ok give me a lil bit cause she had to leave but she should be back soon then i will take a pic of the valve cover
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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Ill be waiting lol
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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awwwww ****... someone played her...
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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take a picture of the head stamp, above the manifold...it should be p08 or p2j if its sohc vtec.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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where is the stamp at i dont have my car here to look at and her motor is hot
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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It's between the top of the exhaust manifold and the valve cover.

Does the valve cover say "VTEC" or "16 Valve"?
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Ya, looks as if someone ripped off the VTEC solenoid. That green plug is obviously its wires.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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1)looks like a vtec motor. d15b is jdm, motor definitly came with vtec.
it obviously is has a vtec computer, or else it wouldnt be throwing code 22.
2) looks like the previous owner rigged it up.
3) if she wants vtec just get a vtec solonoid, its easy to do. or if she doesnt care, just toss a p06 in it and be done with it.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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i've seen this before (the blocked off port that looks OEM-ish), i really wish i could remember the conclusion we reached


edit:
easy way to reduce questions of whether you have VTEC or now:
are the spark plugs in the front or the back? take a picture of the valve cover. if the spark plugs are in the back, then you don't have VTEC as it makes SOHC VTEC impossible because the spark plugs are in the way. This is the reason SOHC VTEC only works on the intake valves and only DOHC VTEC works with all of the valves... because on DOHC the spark plugs are in the center of the two cams and don't block anything.


VTEC solenoid has 3 bolts holding it on so...


this engine came with a dual carburetor and not fuel injection so it's a block off plate for a fuel pump.

not the thread i was thinking of but, it works https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/trying-figure-out-what-head-i-have-d15b-block-1960468/

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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 01:00 AM
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^^ exactly what I was thinking...

In short, to get rid of the CEL, either install a VTEC head, or install a 92-95 Civic DX/LX (P06) ecu and call it a day.
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 03:50 AM
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Default Re: ineresting little problem with a d series........ pictures up now

that motor was originally carbed
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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Ditto what sp00ledbseries, trustdestruction, DestructoEH and turbostd wrote. The block and head are the non-vtec D15B, originally dual-carbureted when driven in Japan. When re-sold in the U.S., these non-vtec D15Bs are modified for MPFI (or DPFI). So your friend's 92-95 Civic EX's ECU is looking for the stock VTEC setup and not finding it. What I would like to know is who sold this car's owner the motor and what was the owner told at the time of sale. E.g. was the owner told a head swap would be necessary if the owner wanted VTEC?
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