I have installed a Jet V-Force and AEM intake into my 99 Honda Accord F23A 4Cyl 2.3L vehicle. I would like any suggestion on quick and easy modifications I could do to add some power. Like new exhaust, header blah blah. Thanks in advance!

 

i don't know what you think is quick and easy, but i think dropping a cam in is easy. that with an ECU to match and some better exhaust wouldn't hurt.

what kind of power are you looking to gain?

 

uh oh, I has better be scared...................

outside of bolt on's HP does not come easy or cheap for a F series motor...........

 

Yeh, it was prob a stupid question. I have gotten a good boost from the intake and jet performance. I'm debating an exhaust manifold. The F23A engine is stock 150 or so. I would like to drive it up to around 200. I think my engine mod budget will be $1000. If that was the budget, is there much I can do for that? THanks

 

how does the JET perform? I had looked at that a while ago but was not sure if doing a full ecu swap with the h22 swap would be better in the long run or go ahead and get the JET chip now and then just get rid of it later.

 

well seeing that a boosted f22 on 7 or 8 pounds will produce about 190-230 hp where an h22 with IHE and a good tune will produce 190 pretty easily, throw some high compression pistons and youre touching 240 250.

 

Honestly I would prefer the H22 swap, but, I don't think I'll have this car that long. Prob just buy a prelude or something with the engine factory installed. For now though, a few things here and there that make sense works for me. I owned the Jet already so throwing it in was no prob. It seems to perform well. If you take a look at the jet site and checkout the test pages, you'll see (according to their tests) at some points during acceleration you'll have about a 13 + HP increase. At the high end of the RPM range you'll prob only have around 10HP increase. I don't typically run in that range. All in, it did make an improvement. The newer model offers a suite of monitors. I will spring for that later. For now, I may be moving in the direction of an exhaust system. The current one is the factory installed and has some rattle and what not. I was going to replace some of it anyway under normal maint. So, perhaps you guys could throw me some suggestions on cost effective solutions? Thanks

 

nitrous...

 

dc sports 4-2-1 header, magnaflow or apexi ws2 catback exhaust.

 

In all honesty, it wouldn't be worth the money to invest in a header or exhaust system for your f23, the gains you will see will be hardly noticeable at best. If you're going to do anything for noticeable power, swap, turbo or hook up some nitrous, bolt ons really won't do anything, I should know I have all of that junk (header, intake full exhaust, high flow cat) on my f22b1 and it really isn't anything to write home about.

 

theres always the supercharger option.

 

**** the bullshit... Boost it

 

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if your not gonna have the car that long and you want something cheap, spray. with a 55-75hp shot, I/H/E, you'll be up around 200(+/- 5-10hp) and you'll be quick too. as long as you dont use it every day, it'll be cheaper for you to use that option.

 

Nitrous is like a hot chick. You want to hit it, but are afraid of the after effects. Haha. Anyhow, depends how long you will keep the car. A little shot of nitrous on a stock motor would not be bad if you are not keeping it long, but it would only be good performance whenever you have the bottle filled and actually use it. Where as if you are keeping the car longer, and can invest the money, either turbo or swap. Turbo can be adjusted obviously, but you have to worry if your stock bottom end can hold it or not if you over boost it. And a swap, like the H22 obviously, has a few little things you need to do like grinding motor mounts, ECu swap and pin exchange (A6 and A11 I believe but dont quote me), and power steering line swap. There is more, but you need to look at the money you have available, and how long you will keep the car.

 

A light flywheel makes an F22 fun to drive!

 

light flywheel and cam the sh** out of it. yeah fun to drive. But horrible idle, but then again if you can make your F series sound like a big block ford, then all to ya haha. Hey you could swap the H22 head on snorlax. No one mentioned that. DOHC head on the SOHC block. Not very expensive either. Then headers that will actually add horsepower, H22 headers FTW.

 

A tech in our shop has a 12 pounder in a F22, no vibration. runs ****.

 

No i mean the flywheel with the cam. But actually I meant flywheel with a lighter crank. But it may not do that on the F series. Have heard of other engines doing that though.

 

I hear what your'e saying. I had a fidanza 8 pounder on my H22 hatch. It ran rough. I just replaced the clutch and flywheel with an XTD 11 pounder, It actually idles smoother.

 

I like that tamadrummer, i'd hit it on a regular basis! I don't want to destroy the engine so boost sounds better but I don't want to throw a rod either if the low end can't hold it. Plus the turbos are around 3 - 4G. I don't think the car is worth that mint is it?

As far as the H22 head on the F block? Where can I find info on that? It doesn't sound bad but you'd have to bore the block and do a lot of other work right? I've seen a similar project that seems like a and a block hole for cash.

As far as the light flywheel, correct me if I'm wrong, but, this would involve removing the engine right? Stupid question because I know how it's bolted on. I've just replaced the engine over the summer. The balancer belt broke and caused the timing to skip teeth thus bending valves on each cyl. Compression tests confirmed this. This is a daily driver so I guess I could use the old block to build it up outside of the car! Hmmmm..... that's an idea. but, if I ever do a swap I'll want to move up to the H22.

 

yeah man. we learned all about that at my school. Like how the crank and fly are all balanced and weighted for a certain reason which is you know to have a smooth idle, but every time you want performance you have to sacrifice some sort of comfort for it. Like an exhaust you have to hear it more, or lowering it, you have to watch speed bumps and such, and in this case, light fly and crank, rough idle. So good stuff. Good thing is the rear motor mount on accords is an oil controlled mount to help with idle movement.

 

Well the H22 head on the F22 or F23 block is in the FAQ section. And honestly its not that difficult. Just plugging a couple oil passages from what I heard, and getting the new timing equipment. Good time to do a new intake manifold and bigger TB if you want. And an awesome valve train too if you want, better cam and such. But just the head on the block should be only a few hundred depending on how much the head costs you and the condition its in.

 

Cheapest most effective way to get good power.

 

Yeah nitrous is great, just don't want too large of a shot to blow some sh** up. And it is not always there constantly. Those are the two down sides. Unlike an engine swap/head swap or a turbo, where the power is always there constantly and does not have to be refilled in a tank when you use it haha. But it definitely is a great bang for the buck.

 

Great, I'll take a look at that! Could you post the Faq here? If not, no sweat. I'll poke around to find it. It's sounds interesting. In fact, if this can be pounded out in a few days ill get all the stuff and make it a project for the weekend. How much of a performance gain are we taking about here? 5 - 10HP? Thanks for the suggestions!