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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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I am about to finish my checkout for the eCTune package. But wanted to get everyone's opinion who have actually used it compared to other stuff. Mainly compared to S300, or anything else that is good.

The car is a 94 Del Sol w/ D16Z6 (pretty sure P28). Currently it has a 75 wet shot on it, retarded timing via the Dizzy. Works good as is.

I am either going to be going for a higher comp n/a build w/ SRP Pistons/Eagle Rod combo, and up the shot to about 125, maybe more. Or put a lower comp piston in it, take off the spray and go Turbo. I am still undecided what route I want to go.

But I wanted to get advice from people that have tuned either setup (spray/turbo) and what software they preferred. I was mainly looking at eCTune because it is roughly $200 dollars less than S300. But if the software is lacking a lot compared to S300, then the $200 might be worth it, I don't know. Only downside I can see to eCTune is that you need to leave that emulator box thing connected/on at all times.

I am coming from the world of GM's and OBD2 HPTuners. I looked at the software for both eCtune and S300, both seem like really good stuff and easy to use.

Anyone use both of these and make a fair comparison if S300 is really worth the extra $200+? Is there something else besides the two that is a good compromise?
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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eCtune works great, so does hondata s300.
I would suggest comparing both system's features & figure out which system suites your needs.

We find that a lot of customer's rather use a single usb cable to tune their vehicle.
Once the new demon comes out, eCtune will be able to run on a single usb cable system which fits inside of the ecu case.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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eCtune works great, so does hondata s300.
I would suggest comparing both system's features & figure out which system suites your needs.

We find that a lot of customer's rather use a single usb cable to tune their vehicle.
Once the new demon comes out, eCtune will be able to run on a single usb cable system which fits inside of the ecu case.
How exactly does the eCtune work? I thought you plugged the Ostrich 2.0 into the ECU, then a USB cable into the Ostrich 2.0?

As you can tell, I've never messed with anything except OBD2 cars.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by WSFrazier
How exactly does the eCtune work? I thought you plugged the Ostrich 2.0 into the ECU, then a USB cable into the Ostrich 2.0?

As you can tell, I've never messed with anything except OBD2 cars.
You are correct.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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The NepTune RTP package is also a good option if you're not in a rush. It will be using the Demon hardware, which is due out at the end of the month.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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The NepTune RTP package is also a good option if you're not in a rush. It will be using the Demon hardware, which is due out at the end of the month.
+2 they are all good choices!
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Sounds like I should hold off until this Demon thing comes out.

I will look into NepTune as well.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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On the site it says that there are only 5 more units of the Demon in stock, does that mean once they are shipped there will be a wait before they are available again?
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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It says 5+ in stock. That means more than 5, it's just not a specific number. The initial run should accommodate all orders.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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I don't want to start a big fight, but after looking at NepTune RTP also being the same price as eCtune, it is a tough call.

Anyone else have experience with all three and make a valid comparison? I like how the Demon is a lot smaller than the OST 2.

Depending how long this Demon takes to be released, I could hold off probably a month on the tuning. How does that Demon work, does it need soldered or does it plug into a set of pins underneath?
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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It plugs right in.

The hopeful ship date is on or after 4/28/09 according to the site. Things are going well with testing.
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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when the demon comes out our little world is going to be completely different .

Just a side note.

Hondata and Neptune are U.S. owned/based companies
EcTune is not owned or based in the U.S.

Neptunes owner is a U.S. born native.
Hondatas owners are from New Zeland and came to the us around the time they started thier company.

That was just some political food for thought.

As far as how good they work... I can't honestly make much of a distinction between any of these systems. Each system has minor +'s and -'s but overall they are they are very similar. Another + for Neptune is that HrTuning does develop/produce other honda ecu related hardware and the owner JR is very cool and helpful (even if you haven't given him any of your money).

For my money Neptune is the best overall choice when all of the factors are considered for an OBD1 system. If we were talking K-Series then I would be promoting K-Pro here over AEM.

I am not knocking any of these companies I am just stating facts. So pleeeaaase can we avoid a bunch of defense/attacks to this response.

Also, please correct me if any of my facts or incorrect
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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I try to help where I can. Thanks for the kind words.
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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i like the fast boost option that ectune has. But other than that, both are solid systems
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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I have a quick question i'm already neptuned if I wanted to run the demon what is need and do I need to pay for another license?
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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You can upgrade through your dealer.
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Old May 25, 2009 | 06:11 AM
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HRTUNING,

If you were building a b series turbo car what system would you put in it? I am running crome right now but want to upgrade. Is neptune with the demon pretty much the same as hondata? Is there any big differences? Does neptune have to be tuned by a dealer or can I tune it myself?

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Old May 25, 2009 | 07:33 AM
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The Demon + NepTune combo is very similar to Hondata and you can tune it yourself. It's a very stable system that simply works...

With the release of On-Board logging there won't be much of a difference between the two. Download both softwares and see which feels more comfortable.
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Old May 25, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Which would you use on your own car?

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Old May 25, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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NepTune, but I'm a bit biased.
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Old May 25, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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you're talking to HRTuning, the owner of Neptune. he is very knowledgable.

what would you use on your own car? answer: what you feel most comfortable with. what engine management should you buy? answer: what your tuner's best with and suggests. why? speed up tuning time in a safe and efficient manner. if you know the software and how to tune, you can do it quickly and safely. on the same note, if something's wrong, you could use the software to also help troubleshoot what's wrong with your car. learning how to use all the little features is what really makes a difference.

i've used ectune, hondata, aem ems, and they all have their pros and cons.
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Old May 25, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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I am use to crome and neptune seems alot different. I cant seem to find what would be options menu on crome. Where you can adjust vtec, turn on and off o2 and stuff like that. Could you help me with this?

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Old May 25, 2009 | 09:27 AM
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Choose parameters in the Tools menu.
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Old May 25, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by victoriasamantha
I am use to crome and neptune seems alot different. I cant seem to find what would be options menu on crome. Where you can adjust vtec, turn on and off o2 and stuff like that. Could you help me with this?

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There is a FAQ and a how to section for all of the features. It would make sense to do a little bit of reasearch before getting overwhelmed.

http://www.hrtuning.com/software/NepTuneRTP/RTPHelp/
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Old May 25, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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thanks for your help. i am going to look into it.
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