*****UPDATED QUESTIONS*******
1. How do I determine what spring I need for my tial wastegate.
2. I settled on a GT3255 turbo, but I am having issues finding them for sale.
3. Will a 24.5x11.75x3 front mount intercooler fit without having to cut the metal bumper support or anything crazy (car is a civic)?
4. Will I need a boost controller? If so, what are some cheap/good ones?
5. The wastegate and the BOV both need a vacuum line hooked up, correct? Does it matter where I get the vacuum from?
*****UPDATED QUESTIONS*******

So I have a B18c1 in my civic. I want to turbo it and I am beginning to gather the parts. I just want to run a reliable amount of boost and hopefully get somewhere near 300hp. I plan on keeping stock internals for now. I need help making sure I am getting what I need though. My last turbo was a d16 and it was a greddy kit, so I didn't do a whole lot of piecing together the parts. Anyways, here is my list...please let me know if I am missing anything and if it all makes sense:

1. Turbo: either a SC34 Precision or GT30 Garett
2. Ramhorn-style turbo manifold--these all seem to be very pricey? Any websites to look at?
3. Greddy type RS bov + flange
4. 550 cc injectors --Do these have to be RC? I have seen a lot of other brands...are the other brands fine?
5. AEM 1:1 FPR
6. 38mm Tial wastegate -- Any other specifications for this?
7. 3" thick front mount intercooler rated for at least 300hp with 2.5" inlet and outlet -- ebay fine for this? also what dimensions will fit right under the bumper support without me having to cut the bumper?
8. Oil return and feed kit -- any ideas on where to get what I need for this?
9. 2.5" intercooler piping
10. possibly a turbo timer, boost gauge, and oil pressure gauge.
11. I am already running an obd1 p72 chipped on crome...so I just plan to go in for a tune afterwards--would crome be fine for this setup?
12. I currently have 2.5" exhaust piping. Do I need to swap it out to 3"?

Added:
13. 3" downpipe
14. NGK-4554 spark plugs



Thanks in advance for any feedback.

 

don't for get a turbo down pipe!

 

Thank you.

Anyone else? I have a lot of unanswered questions =(

 

Looks like you did your research.

You'll probably need a fuel pump if you haven't got one yet.
Get a valcum block also from GE, or from T1 Racing development.


1. Either turbo you listed above will get you to your desired power goal with room to grow.
2. Ramhorn-style, try contacting AFI (http://www.afiturbo.com)
3. Blow of valve is good.
4. For the injectors, RC will be fine. I run the 550's in my daily car with no problems at all.
5. FPR is good.
6. You're perfectly fine with the 38mm Tial wastegate.
7. For the intercooler, I would try and stay away from the Ebay intercooler's, not saying they'll not work but I would rather do it right the first time. Get yourself a good intercooler. It'll save you money in the long run and you never know, some day yoiu might want to go all out and make more power!!!
8. Try T1 Racing Development. http://www.t1raceparts.com/category_s/84.htm
9. 2.5 will be fine also.
10. You'll need a Wideband also.
11. Crome will also be ok, just make sure you have a repetable tuner to tune it for you.
12. Go 3", like I said in the near future you might want to go all out, save you money in the long run.
13. 3" downpipe also!!!

Remember don't take any short cuts, and do it right the first time.

 

Ditch the AEM FPR.. its a disaster waiting to happen. Pretty much any intercooler will require cutting the bumper. 3" dp and exhaust always helps.

 

Yeah dont forget that WB02
and a couple sets of NGK-4554's

 

Got a walbro 255, thanks for that though.

2. AFI has the ramhorn mani for 800..is that pretty much what they go for? It seems outrageous...but that is what I keep seeing everywhere. Is it really worth it to go with the ramhorn v.s. the regular log style or something else?

4. Do I have to get RC injectors? will the other brands be just as good?

12. I currently have a 2.5" exhaust...Will I need to swap it to a 3" for this setup? or only if I want to go all out later on down the road?

Thanks a lot for the response, man.


Whats the WB02?
Do those NGK's come pre-gapped?

Why do you say to ditch the AEM FPR? Should I run a different brand, or what?
For the intercooler, I realize I will most likely have to cut...but what I don't want is to have to cut anything that will be visible from the outside.

 

For 300whp, a log manifold will be more than good enough.

Any injectors will work. If you're on a budget I would suggest DSM injectors with a resistor box. I got mine for only $25.

2.5" exhaust will make 300whp easily.

OEM FPRs are good to 500+whp. I have seen AEMs blow the diaphragm and almost ruin multiple engines.

Almost all intercoolers will require cutting the inside, but most can be fitted with a stock look to the bumper.

 

I suggest delphis injectors. They get the job done and are cheap. I bought my set of 550s brand new for $280. PM me for the guys contact info if your interested

 

What about the oil catch can? and the lines from the valve cover.

 

http://www.spoolinperformance.com/st...bd9c5b3b70e5a6

He has a ramhorn for 650. Thats about the cheapest I've seen. as well as the downpipe to match.

 

Spoolin performance makes really good products.

 

I would go up in inj. size just a lil so you dont have to grow/upgrade later. Cause those will max out quick. IMO.....

 

So I shouldn't worry about brand names when it comes to injectors?

So no need for an aftermarket FPR with this setup, correct?

The RC's aren't much more than that..I will keep that brand in consideration though, thanks.

I don't need a catch can for this setup, do I?

Thanks a lot man. Any other feedback on this company and their manifolds?

So the injector size doesn't have to match the setup? In other words...if I go to a bigger injector size, it won't be too much for the engine? For example, I could put 1000cc injectors inside a setup that only requires 500cc and it would be fine?

Thanks for all the replies.

 

Precision injectors are good and cheaper then RC.

You just have to tune properly for bigger injectors, otherwise you might have idle problems.

Might also want a wideband a/f ratio gauge for tuning

 

1. You dont need a GT30r and i'm not a huge Precision fan. Get a standard Garrett 57 trim (or nice variant of it like the GT3255) and you'll be in business with a few extra bucks in your pocket. If you want help picking a turbo, you can PM me

2. For your goals, a ramhorn will work, but there are other options that would work better. Personally, I would run a shorty ram. There is no need for the high volume flow potential of the ramhorn for your power goals. Stick to something with shorter runners and you'll gain a lot of midrange power and spool

3. The injectors don't have to be RC...that's just a common brand people use

4. Get your oil line kit at www.stealthmodeperformance.com (and check out my car in the Customer Spotlight while you're there )

5. You dont need to waste your money on a turbo timer. After driving hard for a little while, make sure your car sits at idle for 15-20sec before you shut it off...that alone saves you about $100

6. 3" Exhaust will definitely help, but isn't necessary. If you take my advice on the turbo, you'll have enough money left over to get a 3" for free.

7. NGK BKR7e plugs...i'm not sure on the exact part numbers. Gap these around .32

 

*****UPDATED QUESTIONS*******
1. How do I determine what spring I need for my tial wastegate.
2. I settled on a GT3255 turbo, but I am having issues finding them for sale.
3. Will a 24.5x11.75x3 front mount intercooler fit without having to cut the metal bumper support or anything crazy (car is a civic)?
4. Will I need a boost controller? If so, what are some cheap/good ones?
5. The wastegate and the BOV both need a vacuum line hooked up, correct? Does it matter where I get the vacuum from?
*****UPDATED QUESTIONS*******

 

your wastegate spring should usually reflect 1/2 of your desired boost range. for example if you want 30lbs shoot for a 15lb spring or higher. but on that note you can also go by what the lowest boost you want to run is. for example if you only want ten lbs get a ten lbs spring you can always turn it up later

 

the wastegate requires a positive boost source. preferably from the compressor housing of the turbo the bov requires a vacuum source post throttle body for the best response.

 

you will need a boost controller if you decide you want more boost than your wastegate spring is rated for.

 

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*****UPDATED QUESTIONS*******

So I have a B18c1 in my civic. I want to turbo it and I am beginning to gather the parts. I just want to run a reliable amount of boost and hopefully get somewhere near 300hp. I plan on keeping stock internals for now. I need help making sure I am getting what I need though. My last turbo was a d16 and it was a greddy kit, so I didn't do a whole lot of piecing together the parts. Anyways, here is my list...please let me know if I am missing anything and if it all makes sense:

1. Turbo: either a SC34 Precision or GT30 Garett
I still have the GT3255 available, but only in the "E" cover, and is still journal bearing system. The GT30R Garrett is ball-bearing, and if you're skiddish about the price of an $800 manifold, you'll hate the price of the GT30R even more. The GT3255 is $800 much less over $1200 for a GT30R.

2. Ramhorn-style turbo manifold--these all seem to be very pricey? Any websites to look at? Who said you had to get that particular manifold? Check Spoolin' Performance for their Log manifolds as well as their Quick4AC (BEST OPTION). You'll spend about $400 (log)-$650 (quick4A/C). Make sure that you get the matching downpipe and dumptube with it, so it can match correctly.

3. Greddy type RS bov + flange Not bad, but TiAL is an even better choice
4. 550 cc injectors --Do these have to be RC? I have seen a lot of other brands...are the other brands fine? No. Delphi injectors & other Rochester/Lucas types (Precision injectors come to mind) do quite well for the GS-R. Anything over 650cc injectors you would use a resistor box, but that's no big deal. I do not at all recommend SLH 750cc saturated injectors... Not the best track record

5. AEM 1:1 FPR No need for this right now. Put your money towards your engine management before needing this.

6. 38mm Tial wastegate -- Any other specifications for this? .6 bar to start off is recommended to start off. 38mm MVS v-band is much easier to integrate.

7. 3" thick front mount intercooler rated for at least 300hp with 2.5" inlet and outlet -- ebay fine for this? also what dimensions will fit right under the bumper support without me having to cut the bumper? the answer to this depends upon the chassis, but typically its ok to keep the bumper support if under 6" in height. As for the bumper itself, you're going to have to do a bit of modification anyway to have it fit. Something you'll just have to deal with. Mishimoto is the only company that sells on e-bay that is trustworthy from my experience. Even before Treadstone

8. Oil return and feed kit -- any ideas on where to get what I need for this? typically you can get these items from those you get the manifold and such from. But otherwise, Stan@ Fast-turbo.com will have these available.

9. 2.5" intercooler piping Again, this is part of the "kit", either spoolin' Performance, AFI or Peakboost

10. possibly a turbo timer, boost gauge, and oil pressure gauge. Good idea on all three

11. I am already running an obd1 p72 chipped on crome...so I just plan to go in for a tune afterwards--would crome be fine for this setup? This depends upon your tuner and the equipment used

12. I currently have 2.5" exhaust piping. Do I need to swap it out to 3"? 3" is best.

Added:
13. 3" downpipe
14. NGK-4554 spark plugs



Thanks in advance for any feedback.[/QUOTE]

 

Thanks for the replies. How will I know how much boost I plan to run before I even get the engine tuned?

 

This is why I posted the wastegate spring as 7.35psi. You won't be boosting UNTIL you get to the tuner. get to the tuner first, and he'll determine the power that can safely be handled by the car. It will start at 7.35, and go from there.

 

-The blow off valve will be the only thing I add to a vacuum source, right? If this is the case, I wouldn't need a vacuum block/rail, right?

-How do I determine the spark plugs I need and the gap that they need to be at? A few of you had mentioned some plugs, but why do I need those specific ones and what do they need to be gapped at?

-I am really having problems choosing a fmic. There are so many options...and mainly my problem is determining the size. I don't want to have to cut the bumper support or anything crazy like the outside of my bumper. Also, how big do I need for this setup?


Thanks in advance and in the past for all of the help.

 

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