h2d i installed for a customer
This has been an ongoing project with one of my customer that i performed. It consists of a bisimoto h2d adapter.
h22 motor
bisimoto h2d tranny adapter plate
z6 tranny with quaife diff 5.0 final if i am not mistaken
rmf header
whale ***** intake lol
custom dss 2.9 axles
i performed this swap a little different from everyone else,instead of cutting the shock tower,i tilted the motor a little forward. i used a stock b20 tripod mount on the driver side,factory sohc tbracket,and modified a ek sohc tranny mount. the rear tranny mount required some spacers. i felt that the three mounts wouldnt cut it due to the torque,so i used the factory front mount and basically built a front cross member for it to attach to. i used a factory f20b single grooved crank pulley. the motor fits like a champ,is level,and the hood closes fine without any spacers on it.
h22 motor
bisimoto h2d tranny adapter plate
z6 tranny with quaife diff 5.0 final if i am not mistaken
rmf header
whale ***** intake lol
custom dss 2.9 axles
i performed this swap a little different from everyone else,instead of cutting the shock tower,i tilted the motor a little forward. i used a stock b20 tripod mount on the driver side,factory sohc tbracket,and modified a ek sohc tranny mount. the rear tranny mount required some spacers. i felt that the three mounts wouldnt cut it due to the torque,so i used the factory front mount and basically built a front cross member for it to attach to. i used a factory f20b single grooved crank pulley. the motor fits like a champ,is level,and the hood closes fine without any spacers on it.
Last edited by integrated civic; Apr 11, 2009 at 10:22 AM. Reason: added modification left out
i would say a 4.9 FD, i dont know of any 5.0 but damn thats nice. I never really saw a point in the H/F2D swap unless you have a built D tranny. The ratios are damn near the same as an H tranny. But still i bet that thing ****in hauls ***
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haha, he didn't say that at all. He said that it doesn't change the RPM drops between shifts since the actual gear ratios aren't different.
VERY NICE! Props to another EK/H2D. Have you seen others?
Mine from 2006: http://www.rndauto.com/rantabuild4.htm
Mine from 2006: http://www.rndauto.com/rantabuild4.htm
i used a stock b20 tripod mount on the driver side,factory sohc tbracket,and modified a ek sohc tranny mount. the rear tranny mount required some spacers. i felt that the three mounts wouldnt cut it due to the torque,so i used the factory front mount and basically built a front cross member for it to attach to. i used a factory f20b single grooved crank pulley. the motor fits like a champ,is level,and the hood closes fine without any spacers on it.
Example - if you had a hypothetical transmission with a final drive of 4 and you were to reduce this final drive to 3, every gear would be 33% longer, meaning that the RPM fall on gear shifts would be 33% *more*. The amount of RPM fall between shifts isn't a flat number - it depends on the RPM itself because it is based on ratios. If you shift at 3000 RPM, the fall is half of what it would be if you shifted at 6000 RPM.
Another way to think about it - If you were to start with a Del Sol VTEC transmission (super short gears) and put in the 5th from an LS (highway fuel economy). Then you got all crazy about short gears and throw in a 98' Spec ITR final drive.
your ratios would be as such in the beginning
1st: 3.230 x 4.400 = 14.212
2nd: 2.105 x 4.400 = 9.262
3rd: 1.458 x 4.400 = 6.4152
4th: 1.107 x 4.400 = 4.8708
5th: 0.742 (LS) x 4.400 = 3.2648
and after you change the final drive -
1st: 3.230 x 4.785 = 15.45555
2nd: 2.105 x 4.785 = 10.072425
3rd: 1.458 x 4.785 = 6.97653
4th: 1.107 x 4.785 = 5.296995
5th: 0.742 (LS) x 4.785 = 3.55047
As you can see, every ratio, even the custom LS gear, has changed by a different amount, even though the final drive is one ratio. Basically the whole gearset changes by a given ratio, i.e. the proportion of the two different final drive ratios. Basically, each gear is 8.75% shorter, but since each ratio is different, that results in different changes. 8.75% of 3.23 isn't the same as 8.75% of 0.742. The result?
8.75% less RPM fall after each gear change. So the final drive actually has a huge effect on the amount of RPM drop. So, putting a Type-R (or even a B16) final drive in your old LS tranny could turn it into a very different animal.





