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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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I've done so much searching and came up with nothing... I've seen several kits available for K-series, but I am looking for some B-series applications.

Does anyone here sell them or build custom kits for a B-series?

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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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Damn Tony...considering you already have Jenveys on your B, I'm curious what these are!
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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I'd say Kinsler could probably do them.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 03:53 AM
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I think your best shot would be to have a machine shop (Kinsler or maybe a local Canadian shop) mate up a Cosworth Roller Throttle Assembly (Part #YD8070) to a B series intake/runners/flange.

Link Cosworth Roller Throttle Assembly


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Get in touch with weiRtech here on H-T. He has access to fabricating equipment and already makes flanges for most Honda aps. He is in the Burlington area. He might be able to set you up with a flange and runners.

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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 06:45 AM
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Our B-series castings will be here in April. Individual transverse throttle shafts though, KFI will never do a roller barrel.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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M&M Honda has some.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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Kinsler wont do them. The Rollers have a great chance of something getting suck. The last thing someone want is to get stuck wide open.

Kinsler will however make a regular butterfly throttle body for your application.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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Tony the freakin Tiger is still on here!!??
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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The only M&M Throttles I found look like Toda/OBX Toyota 4AG converted units.

http://mandm-honda.com/dc2_intake.html

Found this thread, you could probably get the information for those ITB's posted

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...1175829&page=2
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 08:21 PM
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Thanks for the help from each and everyone who posted


Originally Posted by scmil95eg
Our B-series castings will be here in April. Individual transverse throttle shafts though, KFI will never do a roller barrel.
Damn, nobody makes roller barrel setups... I guess I will continue my search.


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Tony the freakin Tiger is still on here!!??
I have always been here, but just next door at the forced induction forums...lol
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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so, one of the first posts from stepping into the all-motor forum, i see, who, tony the tiger. wow . odd.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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kinsler does not make a bolt on app for b series.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 04:55 AM
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we will in a couple more days.....
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 05:23 AM
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He is looking for a roller barrel throttle assembly, not butterfly throttle bodies.

OP I too was once looking for a roller barrel throttle body and found the Cosworth setup. $2k for the RbTB's themselves. + $300 for a 1/2" aluminum Cosworth TB to F22 mounting plate. The cost was in the tapper and shape change between the two. If it had of been a strait laser cut it would have been 1/2 the price. + $150 to have the adapter/mounting plate welded to the F22 manifold/runners. It was a bit out of my price range at the time but it is doable.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by scmil95eg
we will in a couple more days.....

Ive been drooling over a set!

PM'd!!!
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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I saw cosworth roller throttles for a b series in person at the PRI show in orlando a couple of years ago. They must be out there somewhere...
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Old May 1, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Whats up Tony !!!
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Old May 1, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RippSpeed
Whats up Tony !!!
I put a set of Cosworth injectors on a H22.I used a 1/2 thick piece of aluminum for an adaptor.The bore centers on a Cosworth midget engine are the same as a H22.So it was pretty easy.
I think a B series is only .250 narrower than an H head.So you could make up for that pretty easy with an adaptor.I have pics if anyone wants to see.
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Old May 1, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5...1-038-17A1.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5...icture1025.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5...R1-044-20A.jpg

I know its not roller barrel but it takes the same adaptor
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Old May 1, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GhostAccord
He is looking for a roller barrel throttle assembly, not butterfly throttle bodies.
For those of us ignorant souls trolling this thread for educational purposes, what's the benefit of Roller Barrel ITBs over Butterfly TBs?
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Old May 1, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by C_Rock77
For those of us ignorant souls trolling this thread for educational purposes, what's the benefit of Roller Barrel ITBs over Butterfly TBs?
the benefits are there are no throttle plate... instead its the whole barrell that rotates and at wide open throttle ... theres nothing but a gaping hole in the center ...

either way man you Integra is getting sick Tony...

Hows the camry doing ???
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Old May 1, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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the benefits are there are no throttle plate... instead its the whole barrell that rotates and at wide open throttle ... theres nothing but a gaping hole in the center ...
So...is the improvement due to the fact that there isn't anything at all obstructing and resultingly disturbing the flow at WOT? i.e...the air doesn't have to flow AROUND anything.
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Old May 2, 2009 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by C_Rock77
So...is the improvement due to the fact that there isn't anything at all obstructing and resultingly disturbing the flow at WOT? i.e...the air doesn't have to flow AROUND anything.

the improvement would be no throttle plate in the middle creating a distrubance or turbulence in the air flow leading into the head...

heres pics posted from Nasioc forum:

Here are a pair of roller barrell throttle bodies at close position:



Here they're in the partial open position:


Here they're in the WOT position:
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Old May 2, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by C_Rock77
For those of us ignorant souls trolling this thread for educational purposes, what's the benefit of Roller Barrel ITBs over Butterfly TBs?
Simple answer: they make more power at WOT but get worse gas mileage at part throttle.

I personally would want to make an iris throttle body...
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Old May 2, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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A ME I know in Knoxville made one for a Mustang. Fun to play with watching it open and close. Never heard what kind of gains it had though.
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