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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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I have a mild build going on in my gsr. I'm thinking on raising up the compresion by getting itr pistons new rings and a new headgasket from Honda. A set of skunk 2 springs and retainers. I'm running a ctr intake cam with I/h/e. My question is do you guys think this new setup im thinking about will put down 200hp to the wheels? Do you think I should also upgrade my cams? Do you also think I should be good with my gsr rods? Sorry I just typed this on the iPod title is supposed say gsr.

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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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Why not research what guys have done in the past to make 200 whp so you can get an understanding of what it takes....and what things actually will MAKE you power?

To answer you simply....NO, that setup probably will be lucky to put down 180 whp.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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Lucky to put down 180? I got 179.6right now. I guess I'll just have to go do it myself cause all people know is to say search.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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get some bigger cams and some head work and with that you MIGHT hit 200whp with a good I/H/E, and me i'd get the entire bottom end balanced, get some ARP rod bolts/ARP head studs, and you should get to your goal, oo yea and me i'd get 82mm ITR pistons and get a B16/ITR head just for the better flow
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Kr4nG
I guess I'll just have to go do it myself.
Wow...have an epiphany?!

I know....it's just such a terrible thing to expect someone to put in the effort to find information that's already out there in lieu of just spoon-feeding them.....JUST SHOCKING, ISN'T IT?

How arrogant do you think it is to expect us to just tell you what to do when you haven't even taken the little bit of effort it takes to do a search?
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Let's not start something. Basicaly by putting in itr pistons I won't get far.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SR20S13
and get a B16/ITR head just for the better flow
sigh.......care to elaborate a little on this, flow wise?


Originally Posted by Kr4nG
Let's not start something. Basicaly by putting in itr pistons I won't get far.
What do you mean by not getting far?
Dont use compression as **** size because even an itr piston set would make for a fine foundation for a "mild gsr".
P73, P30, or Pr3 would all be suitable. Especially coming off a stock gsr piston.

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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by C_Rock77
Wow...have an epiphany?!

I know....it's just such a terrible thing to expect someone to put in the effort to find information that's already out there in lieu of just spoon-feeding them.....JUST SHOCKING, ISN'T IT?

How arrogant do you think it is to expect us to just tell you what to do when you haven't even taken the little bit of effort it takes to do a search?
I am sure every question there is has been ask about D,B,H and F series engines so lets just close the forum down and have it "read only".

Oh yeah that wouldnt work cause the search sux!

There is more mis-information about Hondas than anything else floating around. Sometimes its reassuring to ask a question and get a fresh answer from someone you can correspond with.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark_Teg
I am sure every question there is has been ask about D,B,H and F series engines so lets just close the forum down and have it "read only".

Oh yeah that wouldnt work cause the search sux!

There is more mis-information about Hondas than anything else floating around. Sometimes its reassuring to ask a question and get a fresh answer from someone you can correspond with.
I know exactly what you're saying. You're totally wrong on one aspect. You act like I don't want to help anyone....you're wrong. I'll HELP anyone as much as I can IF you've put some effort toward finding info. Show me you give enough of a sh*t to have looked at threads on here (There are f*cking PLENTY -- and don't use the search fxn excuse...they're not hard to find -- they're like 3 or 4 pages back if that far...threads that discuss build after build WITH dyno results). I've asked questions on here that have been covered before....but guess what....I searched and looked. I had questions, and asked them of people with FIRST HAND experience, and got answers. WHY did I get answers? B/c I put in the effort to look, and it was obvious that I'd done a bit of homework before I asked stupid, uninformed questions. Don't just pop up here and say "What should I do?" I'll tell you to go do GTFO and go do some reading. Conversely, ask an INTELLIGENT question that shows you've put some effort in, and I'll give you an opinion...possibly point you in the direction of some more sources of information so you can make your OWN decision....but I'll help you in whatever way I can.

You don't like the way I answer laziness, I really don't give a f*ck.

As for mis-information....I really don't think there's that much MIS-Information in the build threads showing what combinations have WORKED.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SR20S13
oo yea and me i'd get 82mm ITR pistons and get a B16/ITR head just for the better flow
Yeah, overbore your block out to the maximum bore stock sleeves can handle. That way if you ever have to do a rebuild and the walls have taper or are out of round, you will be forced to resleeve the block. Please explain how a PR3 head flows better than a P72.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by C_Rock77
I know exactly what you're saying. You're totally wrong on one aspect. You act like I don't want to help anyone....you're wrong. I'll HELP anyone as much as I can IF you've put some effort toward finding info. Show me you give enough of a sh*t to have looked at threads on here (There are f*cking PLENTY -- and don't use the search fxn excuse...they're not hard to find -- they're like 3 or 4 pages back if that far...threads that discuss build after build WITH dyno results). I've asked questions on here that have been covered before....but guess what....I searched and looked. I had questions, and asked them of people with FIRST HAND experience, and got answers. WHY did I get answers? B/c I put in the effort to look, and it was obvious that I'd done a bit of homework before I asked stupid, uninformed questions. Don't just pop up here and say "What should I do?" I'll tell you to go do GTFO and go do some reading. Conversely, ask an INTELLIGENT question that shows you've put some effort in, and I'll give you an opinion...possibly point you in the direction of some more sources of information so you can make your OWN decision....but I'll help you in whatever way I can.

You don't like the way I answer laziness, I really don't give a f*ck.

As for mis-information....I really don't think there's that much MIS-Information in the build threads showing what combinations have WORKED.


I could care less how you answer questions or feel about it afterwards that wasnt my point.

People have been building B-series engines since the early 90's. I think its safe to say that 20 years later everything has been thoroughly redundantly covered. Alot of people want validation of their "opinions" before they spend money.

I bet I can find a guy that made 160whp and a guy that made 220whp with the same parts.

It gets confusing to a newbie Honda guy is all I am saying.

I am a moderator on a couple of Mustang sites and it really annoys me when newbies ask ?'s such as "how do i set my timing?" "whats better 3.73's or 4.10's?" etc... cause its been covered a million times.

Maybe its cause all this Honda stuff is fresh and new to me I dont know.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark_Teg
I could care less how you answer questions or feel about it afterwards that wasnt my point.

People have been building B-series engines since the early 90's. I think its safe to say that 20 years later everything has been thoroughly redundantly covered. Alot of people want validation of their "opinions" before they spend money.

I bet I can find a guy that made 160whp and a guy that made 220whp with the same parts.

It gets confusing to a newbie Honda guy is all I am saying.

I am a moderator on a couple of Mustang sites and it really annoys me when newbies ask ?'s such as "how do i set my timing?" "whats better 3.73's or 4.10's?" etc... cause its been covered a million times.

Maybe its cause all this Honda stuff is fresh and new to me I dont know.
The new search still needs alot of work, but I believe one reason why it seems misleading is because by default it searches for topic relevance relelating to the keyword searched. Meaning, if you searched "LS VTEC" and got a threads titled "Hybrids" or "Frakinsteins" you would have comments/posts within these threads mentioning discussions in relevance to your keyword (in this instance the "LS VTEC").

Other search engines work by simply pinning down topics/posts created using only your exact keyword or closely spelled phrase/keyword combination , kinda like the difference between Google and Yahoo. Two different types of search engines.

Reguarding forum members willingness to help, it depends on the question asked and how its asked, I think. I try to help when I can depending on how the question is asked, or what is asked. Sometimes some questions can lead to pretty interesting discussions in part by knowledgable members here.

If your here for the first time asking a question that could be easily answered by reading the FAQ's, then most regulars here will not respond with a serious answer as a reflection of disreguard for the forum rules.

My advice, use all the info you can find on HT and else where. But remember that its just the internet, which is subject to a broad spectrum of different users and differing opinions along with good advice that you get sometimes.

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