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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 07:05 AM
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Im just wondering if any1 conqured this yet since majority of our si top end sucks and its mainly due to the 130hp govenor has any1 bypassed this or came out with a solution to removing this
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 08:06 AM
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Well you certainly are not hitting that at a circuit track and you're certainly not hitting it in a 1/4 mile. And speed limits in Cali are what? 65/75mph at most?

I think you're safe with a 130 mph governor.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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im sure the k-pro you want to get will do that if you have enough power.. and ive gone over 130 with it stock the highest i got was 137 then the power just wasn't there. I should try and make a run with it now but it scares meat those speeds
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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I don't know if I believe there is a governor. I think it is just a lack of power.

Supposedly on my EM2 there was a 112mph governor, but I frequently hit 120mph+
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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the 2006 Si didn't have one and very early 2007's didn't either, at least the 07 Si Sedans. The govenor on the Si I had cut at 133, so did my brothers and we relied on GPS navigation, way more accurate than stock speedo.

There is a wide debate on whether or not the current or old Hondata reflash removed it but I'd ask Hondata and not rely on HT or 8th civic rumor mill for that.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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A 200HP Civic Si should be able to easily exceed 130MPH. Stock ITRs would hit about over 140 MPH before drag became an issue. Call Hondata and ask them.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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06' Si are limited to 157mph

07+'s are limited to 133mph

Here is videos of the limiter:

07

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffBtl0wYey4

06

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFbn-4BW2Cw
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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I hit 134 in my stock 07 then i hit RPM cutout. If i had a higher RPM in 5th gear i could proly gone faster. Didnt go into 6th gear becuz i dont think the stock engine is powerful enuff to push that fast in 6th gear. But now that i have thout about it next time im on that same stretch of road i will try it and see what happens. I think on a supercharged or turboed civic you could go faster than 134 in 6th cuz youd have the extra power. I guess about that "06" Civic that hit 157 i cant tell if its stock. I dont think a stock civic does have that kinda power to push that far into 6th, SO if its not a stock civic it could have a piggybacked ECU to help tune it for that amount of extra power, or depending on the piggyback it could be limited by the other ECU not the stock SI ECU.

I guess i dont wana say theres not a governor but idk if that video is real proof.

Any charged civics on here that have gone into 6th and such?

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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RD Baron Z
07+'s are limited to 133mph
I bought an 07 Si sedan just before thanksgiving in 2006 and I know for a fact that NOT ALL 07 Si's had the limiter as I had it up to 143 xmas eve 06 when the free way was baron. Unfortunately the financing on this car got rolled back and I had to turn it back in. It was a shock to me when I got an 07 Si Sedan June 07 and it was bouncing off 133.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FA5Clown
I hit 134 in my stock 07 then i hit RPM cutout. If i had a higher RPM in 5th gear i could proly gone faster. Didnt go into 6th gear becuz i dont think the stock engine is powerful enuff to push that fast in 6th gear. But now that i have thout about it next time im on that same stretch of road i will try it and see what happens. I think on a supercharged or turboed civic you could go faster than 134 in 6th cuz youd have the extra power. I guess about that "06" Civic that hit 157 i cant tell if its stock. I dont think a stock civic does have that kinda power to push that far into 6th, SO if its not a stock civic it could have a piggybacked ECU to help tune it for that amount of extra power, or depending on the piggyback it could be limited by the other ECU not the stock SI ECU.

I guess i dont wana say theres not a governor but idk if that video is real proof.

Any charged civics on here that have gone into 6th and such?
Both where done on dyno's where there is NO resistance, the 06 Si would not have been able to hit 157mph on the road,this cars feel like they just fall flat once you shift to 6th gear at a high mph on the road. We decided to see if there was a speed cut out since we were on the dyno, and thats where the video comes.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Kidnkorner
I bought an 07 Si sedan just before thanksgiving in 2006 and I know for a fact that NOT ALL 07 Si's had the limiter as I had it up to 143 xmas eve 06 when the free way was baron. Unfortunately the financing on this car got rolled back and I had to turn it back in. It was a shock to me when I got an 07 Si Sedan June 07 and it was bouncing off 133.
I have heard of this before, but there is no one with a video proving this. Hopefully someone comes out with one.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 08:44 AM
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I have gone on several top speed runs and the average is 130-131, there is a govenor cause the rpm's basically doesnt go anywhere past 5k once in 6th. The reason why i ask is due to the fact that a dc5 / dc5-r tranny does not have the speed govenor. Hopefully the k-pro that in the works can tackle this issue so si's can have a lil more top end to compete. I have seen some base si' keep up with wrx and evo on a roll through 4th but once 5th kicks top end is very sluggish
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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A transmission is not what "governs" your speed......it does eventually determine it due to gearing but it is not going "okay, well I can go up to 150, but you're going 130 so I"m going to stop you there"

The governor is software controlled, either speed or rpm limited hence why "reflashes" can remove them.
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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where what state ? which govener...hahahahaha..you silly silly boy
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan
A transmission is not what "governs" your speed......it does eventually determine it due to gearing but it is not going "okay, well I can go up to 150, but you're going 130 so I"m going to stop you there"

The governor is software controlled, either speed or rpm limited hence why "reflashes" can remove them.

this man is correct.


and i agree wit wat someone said before. theres no reason for u to be goin that fast in the first place
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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i got my 2006 si to go 157.. then it stopped that was with an AEM FIC so that is where the governor was set.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RD Baron Z
07+'s are limited to 133mph
So how have I gotten mine to 142?
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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^--- Downhill? =P

Wouldn't Canadian and American laws differ as to the nature of electronic-controlled top-speed?

Are M3s and other higher-powered cars limited to 133mph, as well? If not, why not?
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Tokyosmash!
So how have I gotten mine to 142?
the governor showed up somewhere in the 07 model year, the early ones didn't have it.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FijiBlueFG2
^--- Downhill? =P

Wouldn't Canadian and American laws differ as to the nature of electronic-controlled top-speed?

Are M3s and other higher-powered cars limited to 133mph, as well? If not, why not?
yes canadian software and US software are different in these types of cars and applications. thats why the one on the dyno showing KM/H im wondering if it was a UCDM car... any inputs?

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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FijiBlueFG2
^--- Downhill? =P

Wouldn't Canadian and American laws differ as to the nature of electronic-controlled top-speed?

Are M3s and other higher-powered cars limited to 133mph, as well? If not, why not?
no. there's no law in place regarding speed governors, it's up to the manufacturer to put them in. honda might feel that the car isn't safe above 133 mph for whatever reason, or just to protect idiots from themselves. there ARE street cars that will do 200+ in the u.s.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by vladd
no. there's no law in place regarding speed governors, it's up to the manufacturer to put them in. honda might feel that the car isn't safe above 133 mph for whatever reason, or just to protect idiots from themselves. there ARE street cars that will do 200+ in the u.s.
All supercars german cars are limited to 155mph, m3, m5, s55, s65, sl 55-500, 600s. It's a joint agreement with all german automakers.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by EM2Civic
All supercars german cars are limited to 155mph, m3, m5, s55, s65, sl 55-500, 600s. It's a joint agreement with all german automakers.
but it's not because of an american law. FigiBlueFG2 was asking if the speed governor was in place in the civic becaue of a law, and i said that no, it's not.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RD Baron Z
Both where done on dyno's where there is NO resistance, the 06 Si would not have been able to hit 157mph on the road,this cars feel like they just fall flat once you shift to 6th gear at a high mph on the road. We decided to see if there was a speed cut out since we were on the dyno, and thats where the video comes.
Unless you have a K hatch :D I've done 265km/h (155mph~) but that's also with Kpro, car wasn't letting down the road was running out of room though

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but it's not because of an american law. FigiBlueFG2 was asking if the speed governor was in place in the civic becaue of a law, and i said that no, it's not.
Yup right on, just saying there are some governors set in place by certain manufacturers for a while i.e. the germans.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by vladd
the governor showed up somewhere in the 07 model year, the early ones didn't have it.
As I have mention earlier in this thread! Some people just don't read.
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