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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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well my friend got this si sitting at home we bought it and the seller said it had a bad thermostat that thats why it overheated so we drove it from LA to the southbay like that it started over heating but for my stupidity to make it to work early i kept driving it started blowin up blue smoke then we got to the exit and just shut off we try crankin and nothing not a peep the engine is a d16z6 so they told us it needed a new head we bought a head from a 95 civic ex and we put it on but i noticed the block was full of water i just cleaned it so we crank it and it turns over but no start we think it mite be the distributor sounds like no spark but im not sure can sumone give me ideas of wat it might be thanxxx HT
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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bump any help would put it in the ef thread but not alotta help there
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Why did you continue to drive the car as it overheated? You dug your own grave man now you just have to fix your own mistakes. Bump
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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i was like 30 min late to my job already and one more late and i was out so i took the risk either job or car so it was car lol but yeah just looking for sum reasons why it mite not be cranking still
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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sounds like it needs new motor to me....
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 09:34 PM
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leak down test will tell you where your problem is
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 06:00 AM
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Well either it got to HOT and siezed up or your battery is shot. I havent seen many Honda motors sieze up but if it got to hot then it may have. I would try putting a breaker bar or wratched on the crank pulley and try cranking it manually to see if it is siezed or not. If it is real ruff then I would say your screwed if it turns over then start with the battery and starter etc.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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no check or anything and it cranks but no start im not sure with the HOT subject can u explain n wat u mean start it manually noob on sohc engines and efs this is my first 91 civic si
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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Turn the crank pulley by the bolt that threads into the crankshaft. You probably ****ed **** up bad on the bottom end. Possibly cooked rings. Which would mean no compression.

Leak down test.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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yea my friend never fixed it so he sold it to me so now i got it and i was just maaybe planing to put another engine instead but i was wondering since d16z6 are obd1 wat do i have to do cuz i have the obd0 harness wat distributor do i use and ect. please any help thanks
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/%2A%2A%2A-basics-no-start-diagnosis-101-%2A%2A%2A-1992733/
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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well since now that i got it im just planning to put a whole new d16z6 that one was just f-ed with too much and maybe wont find the prob.. So now im putting a new d16z6 but i have a question since i know d16z6 are obd1 im wondering what distributor to use??? and if my stock harness will work?? Because i know obd1 distributors have different plugs so can u please let me in sum info about this thanxx ohh and as i remember the car has a nonvtec harness so any help on how to wire it or do i need a whole new vtec engine harness????
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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if there was already a d16z6 in there shouldnt everything already be converted to obd1 anyway?
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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im not so sure cuz i havent checked it yet cuz im out of town but when my friend bought the car and i was there the seller said that it didnt have vtec because it had a nonvtec harness so im not so sure what that meant but yea the car has a d16z6 but the distributor didnt have obd1 plugs there were obd0 im sure how he got that too work and no checks or anything
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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its wierd that your arent throwing any cels. check your spark by taking out a boot and put it near ground if you get spark Try turning the little rotor that goes in the cylinder head 180 degrees then try to start it. sometimes thats the case lol.

he probably converted the engine to obd0 is what it sounds like
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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yea thats what im guessing put obd0 injector plugs and put a odb0 distributor with a obd0 ecu im planning to go all obd1 but check rywire 300 for a engine harness thats too much should i just get the obd0 to obd1 distributor conversion harness that now they sell for a package for 190 with ecu conversion 4 wire 02 sensor and the distributor conversion
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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yeah you will need a d16z6 dizzy and a chipped p28. with that conversion harness it usually gives extra wires to wire in vtec and what not
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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a chipped p28??? thought that was the stock ecu for the d16z6 and yea im hoping on gettting that and see if sum1 can do the wiring. I drove the car while it didnt have vtec ran fine and everything so idk wat he did to it but thanxx ht member lost my b20b em1 in a accident so had to go oldskoo hehe
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 12:08 AM
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so ht a d16z6 with p28 and the rywire distributor conversion harness will i be aite with just that comes with ecu conversion harness the distrbutor obd0 to obd1 an also the 4 wire 02 sensor am i gonna be okae
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 07:51 AM
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if that car is already running a p28 then something must have already been done to the wiring harness since i dont think obd0 plugs will go into an obd1 ecu
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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to tell u the truth i think he was running it with a stock p06 the ones that the d16a6 come with man wen i get bak ima double check everything and il chime in bak to my threed
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