ok so i have done a lot of looking around and i am still undecited bout which engine i want either an f or an h. its going in a 90 accord and i want to make it a sleeper but i am going to build the engine and boost it. which do you think is better i gonna be driving it daily too and i also do a lot of mountain driving. which do you think you be a better FIT for my plans???????????

 

i know my buddy's H22a4 is bada$$ and he's pushin about 20 pounds of boost with a larger sized turbo so it kicks in a little later

 

F series are far better for boost. Lower compression and already have iron sleeves (at least the f22b2), but would need to be upgraded if running massive boost. A non vtec motor is also best suited for boost.

 

so pretty much just stay with the f even though the h would more than likley be able to put down more power?

 

It depends on how much boost you are talking about and the power you want.

You want a reliable DD w/ boost? Get a f22b2 and it can handle 6-8 psi on stock internals.

Have you done much research in terms of turbo'ing or the motor themselves? Turbo'ing a car is not cheap and you have to get it tuned. Also, if you run it hard you will kill it pretty quickly. You really should spend a few weeks reading up on the whole turbo topic.

 

i have done a little bit of looking and i have found a good number of turbos for less than 2k just no instructions but i have done another honda turbo but the block is getting built no matter i just not sure which one i want itll be used in the mountains a lot though

 

Check out cb7tuner.com they have a few cb's (4th gen accords) that are running boost. Both F and H series.

 

mountain driving? you mean like "canyon running"? i wouldn't recommend a FF boosted for that sort of thing ... either way boosting an F or H series is harmful ... sure F series has lower compression but to boost a motor safely you need more than some crappy piggy back software that comes in the kits for your ecu ... if you want a reliable setup being its for a DD ... it's going to get pricey ... i suggest you do a h22 with full bolt-ons and call it a day

 

If you're going to build the block, H. If leaving stock, F. Then boost away. H will put down more power than F if both are built. Just depends on what you want to spend. I have a lot of money wrapped up in H parts, then ran out of cash. I didn't realize how much it would be. Be prepared.

 

you are right bout that i already have some mods and its a lot. so your saying the best bet out this is to go with a built h than an f and the only reason itll be mountain driving is because i live in colorado and i live in them plus i wanted to be different every one has a civic but no one has an accord that is built up

 

thanks bacal36 i looked at the sight that you said to and it seems the h with bolt ons are a better fit for the cb7 than the f would be thanks for all the helps guys

 

You really need to give us more information, mainly your BUDGET.

You cannot have a extreme built H22 or F22 turbo as a DD. It is as simple as that. You keep saying it is going to be driven in mountains but you want the thing to be super built. Well in either case, if it is a manual you can simply put it in a lower gear to rev the motor and actually spool up the turbo. MPG will be sucky though.

I am assuming your budget is much lower than what you are mentioning on here. Otherwise you would be getting info from the speed shop that is going it for you.

I/H/E on either the f22 or h22 isn't going to give any impressive hp gains, especially for the money. Realistically, about 10 hp if that, to the wheels.

Based on what seems to be your knowledge and budget, an f22 with 6-8 psi is going to be your best bet. If you have TONS of money to blow, you can swap in a K24a4 and make it faster and more reliable than an H any day. And it really doesn't cost that much more.

 

well my buget is really stretched thin cuz right now i going throw school so ya not that big at all. i think the biggest thing that i want to do is stand out with my car with either a build or the turbo i have been going back and forth between the two and still i not that sure. but the biggest thing is that i would like to get up the hills easier than what i m right now

 

Stick with the F22, because with your "in school budget". Your not going to be able to afford a properly built bottom end for ether the F or H. If you want the best bang for your buck and your looking for quick power to get you up a hill. Throw a quick spool'n turbo with a few lbs of boost at your stock F22. If it's an F22A were talking about, the head flows better out of the box than the H anyway.

No matter what, No $$$ = your not standing out anywhere. Other than maybe left behind...sorry!

 

h22 ftw!

 

K24 ftw!!!!

 

It is proven that if you are planning to change the engine of your 90 accord, it is better to chose the h engine rather than f engine.

 

K24 swap = too much money !

 

Umm yeah my DD is a pretty extreme build i think ever heard of booja? it can be done " it is as simple as that" not saying it wouldnt be hard. But it can be done because it has been done.

 

Not really, ive got a guy I know who is swapping a k24 in his 5th gen Accord. It is not as easy but will be better by far. He originally planned on doing a built H but a k24 will end up being slightly cheaper w/ the same horsepower w/ a heck of a lot more potential and more reliable.

 

Never heard of it. So you drive it everyday? What motor? And how reliable has it been?

I suppose anything can be done. Cheap, Fast, Reliable <--- you can only pick two! lol

Also he doesn't have much cash. Low boosted F22 will be plenty.

 

where is this proven lol

 

The only thing that is proven about this is that it costs you $2k+ just to put a 160-180whp used H22a. And who the F#@k knows the real history and condition of it. I'm sure that with that same $2k+ spent wisely on a boosted F22 you could get 200+ WHp easily. That has been proven.

 

Booja had a fully built and boosted H

 

Ok, PROOF, or GTFO!